And just how do I know this? Well...<br><br>Moving some machinery to the basement, thru the yard. Been drizzling off and on, been OK past week until lots of rain came. Got too far south in the dark (I have a couple of springs that make part of the place swampy), and it didn't go no more.<br><br>Funny thing was the rears stayed on top and spun, but the front sunk darn near to the control arms.<br><br>Left it until after work next day; some jacking and some fill material cured problem and drove it to a harder surface more fitting for it's operation.<br><br>Point is, it wasn't hard to do and I'd hate to do this in the woods without recovery gear. Several other vehicles go in and out no problem, but this one sure sunk quick.<br><br>Rob<br><br>PS Naturally the tractor and the jeep are both still winterized and I got no batteries at the moment. You got to work to develop that sort of sense of timing. Planned to get them back operational next weekend, oh well.

 

hmmmm,, muddy ground :'(+ 800lb engine + 2wd = :'(<br><br>glad to see ya made it to safe ground.

 

Looks like it may be time for a 4 x 4

 

There's a guy who lives in the next building over from me, and I found him in the mud a couple weeks ago. It seems that a couple of the maintenance &quot;kids&quot; from our complex decided to take their golf carts across a muddy field (after a hard rain) to the store. So my buddy drove in to get them out and found himself stepping onto the ground level with his floorboards. Needless to say, he couldn't go anywhere....the 4 wheel drive wouldn't even turn his wheels. The tow truck driver even got stuck and only got out using the flatbed as a pusher to get him a couple feet at a time. It took a couple other 4x4 trucks to get him and the golf carts out. He even got $75 from the manager for trying to help their kids out of the mud. Apparently even the 4x4 diesel doesn't do well in the mud.<br><br>-SFB

 

Once that heavy front end starts to sink, even the 4x4 will be hard pressed to get out. I've had mine buried to nearly the top of the wheels on more than one occasion from just that. The only thing more depressing than saying &quot;i wish i had 4x4&quot; is watching 6 tires spin and still be going nowhere.

 

had mine burried to the frame rails about 2 days after I bought it <br><br>got stuck in a hole I go through with the old 74 powerwagon regularly :'(<br><br>anyhow,smoked my clutch trying to get out, broke the 3&quot; tow strap trying to yank it out with the power wagon (15,000 lb's my ***), didn't even budge it<br><br><br>we pulled it out with a logging chain and a hi-lift jack hooked to a nearby tree . I'd heard of it being done before, but never seen it in person myself, it actually worked who knew<br><br>so now I got a 4&quot; tow strap (rated for 30,000 lb's this time) and I'm planning on some 33&quot; goodyear MTR's and a winch for this summer ..................I'll make it through that hole this time ................yes I will ;D

 

My 89 was good in the snow but sunk like an anchor in the mud. Dug it out on several ocassions one scoop at a time. Too front heavy for mud.

Great for pulling up slippery boat ramps too. I had to back the rear axle off the ramp some times here at low tide and it always came back up as long as I kept that front axle on the ramp. Made a believer out of several fellows one day. They bet money they would have to pull me out. Won gas money that day. Cool.

 

Note to self: Stay away from mud, especially their mud.<br><br>~Dave

 

Have pulled onto mushy ground before, got out and left engine running, with all the vibration the diesel makes you can see it just shake it'self into the mud.

 

No it's not time for a 4 x 4, although it did kind of cross my mind ;D. The way the front end was headed for China in the silty stuff, I doubt it would have helped.<br><br>I like the bed height of the 4 x 2; I load a lot of parts and tool boxes in and out. Didn't really want the extra height of a 4 x 4.<br><br>If I move to a 4 x 4 I'd think about various combos of lockers and limited slips. Ya'll will notice in sig I do have a jeep for times I intentionally drive in dirty places.<br><br>Just thought I'd advertise my carelessness as a warning to others.<br><br>Rob

 

I got mine stuck 2 months after I got it.<br>Front sunk to the bumper, back end sunk a wee bit.<br><br>Just stupid on my part, stock tires don't do well and I was not prepared for 4 wheeling.<br>And I was used to my Toyota just floating over the mud.<br><br>Had to hike 3 miles back to the road and found a nice gentleman with a Ford and a shovel.<br><br>Broke my tow strap 3 times but eventually got me out.<br><br>As can see in my sig, I now have much better tires (not mudders though, but still better), a CB to attempt a call for help and a winch on it's way.<br><br>Also going to have a much stronger strap, a pull-pal, a hi-lift, and all necessary winch accesories by the next time I go camping/wheeling.<br><br><br>phox

 

[quote author=shortfieldbreak link=board=10;threadid=12641;start=0#119375 date=1048402820]Needless to say, he couldn't go anywhere....the 4 wheel drive wouldn't even turn his wheels[/quote]<br><br>Did I hear this right?? Not enough power to even spin the wheels??

 

Sunk my truck on the stock tires. Buried the front axle. Very easily came out. Put a set of Goodyear Wranglers on, drove through lakes with ease. ;D Glad I finally got that part of my life done with. I got tired of cleaning the mud out. Now I'm a tow only vehicle. Have a 1&quot; thick steel braided rope with loops on the end. Designed for cranes. Don't think I'll have to worry about it breaking. ;D

 

Probably not....but boy if it does you'd better run!!

 

most trucks <br>that get stuck in mud or whatever <br>are in 2hi but you put in 4hi before you go across the mud <br>i doubt you'll get stuck <br>