Curious to hear some opinions regarding where this will go and how the US will be in the comming 20+ years. More attacks here? will we stay in Iraq, occupy other locations?Involvment by other countries? No bashing, just some thoughts. Personally Im grateful but surprised that another occurance hasent happened here as of yet. How do you deal with finatics like these are?

 

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We will fight them till we come to terms with the fact this has nothing to do with Iraq or anything else except that we are not muslim.
Its not because we took a stand in Iraq. It is because we let them get away with the 1st world trade center bombing, USS Cole and Emassy bombings and they still hit us on 911. They saw us as weak and not williing to strike back. Thank God President Bush had Guts unlike the Impeached one before him.
Now we took the War to them and we are safer for it. I hate to see our Troops die but if we were not fighting them in Iraq and Afganistan we would have more attacks here.

Support Our Troops and take them off the leash and let them do their jobs. We can only win by fighting tooth and nail.. Just like we gained our freedom.
It's time to stop singing koombya and Kick somr tail!

my .02

And to my Left Leaning Friends they dont care about you either. They will blow you up as soon as look at you. that goes for all of us.

 

More attacks? I think its a matter of time.

Will we stay in Iraq? We will be in Iraq until Iraq can police themselves.

Occupy other locations? Matter of time, cowards will run, we will have to chase them.

Involvment by other countries? Only those how have been attacked, therest have their heads in the ground.

my 2 cents...

 

Well, terrorists will always exist... Whether or not they ever attack us again, who knows. We seem to be doing a very good job at defending ourselves. But they only have to win once. So I can't hazard a guess at that one.

Knock on wood, but the Iraqi operation seems to be going great from what I've seen and heard. I think that a friendly government will appear in the next decade. Or it will collapse and be replaced by a dictator, as is historically dictated. But we seem to be doing everything right in that occupation, so I'm optimistic about it.


The biggest thing that will happen in the next 20 years, however, is the rise of China and the rest of Asia, which will usher in very tangled politics and probably the fall of American power... The terrorism thing is important, of course, but ultimately irrevelant. It must be prevented, but it isn't really a threat.

At the moment, the biggest threat against America is a bunch of suicide bombers who can kill 3000 people every five years. That will change in two decades, and we will be facing much bigger and probably fatal threats.

 

London terrorist attacks It'll never be conventional war anymore, no ones dumb enough to try that.

 

You bring up an interesting point.

Before the Civil War, people figured that the utilization of trenches and development of the minnie-ball and the Gattling gun would make the cost of warfare so high that nobody would ever dare declare a fight. It happened, and we lost more men than in all of our other wars put together.

Before World War I, people figured that the invention of the machine gun and widespread use of trenches would make fighting a war a fool's move. Nope.

Before World War II it was said that tanks and airplanes would make wars so costly to the civilians of countries that no government would ever declare war. But Hitler moved anyway.


The only time that technology has ever made a war too expensive to fight was the Cold War, where nuclear weapons provided an unbreakable peace. But will the peace continue? I doubt it. And even if nukes do prevent a shooting war, we will still be distracted from terrorism through an economical and political war between East and West, especially at this rate.

 

All I can say is we cannot win a war fighting "cleanly", while they strap bombs to their children and women. I agree, we need to unleash the military and let them do what they are over there to do.

 

Having seen a whole lot of crazy stuff during the nearly 37 years I've been serving Uncle Sam, IMHO, whether a person, or persons, is Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Buddist, or any one of the number of beliefs that exist, it is the extremism within any of those beliefs that creates the terror problems we are dealing with today. We have seen it within our own country as well as all over the world. Read the history of our own country. We could take extremism to its limits as well as anyone else. I don't think the belief of an individual should brand them as evil, it's that belief carried to an extreme that can become evil.

maybeI'mjustramblingalong'causeit'sbeenalongdayand IneedacoldbeerShortround out

 

Unfortunately, the war on terror is not the same kind of war as World War II, the Civil War or any other war in history.

We are fighting an ideology rather than a military, political or economic power. With any of the latter, the targeting of civillian lives and property is an acceptable and necessary action. This is because the civillians are the ones that supply the support for the enemy military, government and economy. However, the ideology we are fighting is not backed by any large group of targetable civilians. Instead, among other factors, it is supported by the martyrdom of the civilians who we do happen to kill accidently.


So we really don't have anything to gain by targeting civilians. Instead we must continue to target the terrorists directly. And our current system against terror seems to be working very well.
Even with the bombings in London; what, 40 people died? Tragic, but a statistical joke. The best they can do is 40 people? Obviously they have lost a lot of skill, considering the 4000 lives lost on 9/11.
Ultimately terrorism is insignificant, and we are doing a great job of stamping it out. That is why I see it being ellipsed by bigger threats, such as China, in the next 20 years.

 

Last week I was reading thru some posts on this site in another thread about how we should not be in Iraq and Afghanistan, blah, blah, and on and on. Maybe we should just sit around and wait for them to pick us off one by one or better yet get their hands on a nuke. Obviously their intentions are never going to be to leave us alone. We will have to put an end to it and the there is no time like the present.

 

Wilson, just because the threads are almost the same exact thing DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WRITE ONE POST FOR BOTH THREADS. For the love of God, man...

 

I wondered if anyone was going to be observant enough to pick that up By the way I enjoyed your response in the other thread, now you should cut and paste the entire thing here.

 

Yeah, what he said.