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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Suspected serial killer seemed harmless

Lary said I would find this story here in the "Other" forum but I can't find it, if you can post the link please.

I have to ask why it is not a hot topic? Where is the outrage for the dead girls? Is because most were under class or maybe hookers? Is it because they are black? 11 dead and counting. Tell me what you think.

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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
Lary said I would find this story here in the "Other" forum but I can't find it, if you can post the link please.

I have to ask why it is not a hot topic? Where is the outrage for the dead girls? Is because most were under class or maybe hookers? Is it because they are black? 11 dead and counting. Tell me what you think.

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Andy, if you choose to Quote me in the future, I suggest you actually READ what I say before Quoting it.

I said "All you have to do is look through the "Other" forum and there are tons of threads where members are upset with things like that" I never said this same story was in this forum.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 08:55 PM
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Lary - I agree I must of miss read your suggestion to look here but in the context of the other thread I expected to actually find the story mention in that thread here in this section.

I am still interested in what everyone thinks of the story.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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What's to think? It sounds like a neighborhood that doesn't exactly believe in neighborhood watch. They caught the guy as soon as they found out. There was no fugitive time to get people scared and stirred up looking for him.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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most of them get awsy with it because they dont stand out. unless people are looking for someone who is missing then no one will make a big fuss. if no one cares if your missing then its hard to raise a fuss
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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There are reasons why I live in a small town(5-700 people). There are upper, middle and lower class living in even this small of a town but ultimatly everyone knows everyone and all are freinds. To me living in a largeer town/city just makes you a number or statistic. Stuff like this happens where masses congregate and if one or elleven go missing no one notices. Here if even one person went missing the entire town would know with in hourse and people would be on the lookout. Dont get me wrong its not like something couldent happen in a small town but if it does most people know who to suspect because unlike the big citys everyone knows there neighbor and has an idea of there mental state. To me if they where hookers as you suggested(I havent read any of the news on this subject so I dont know there "profesion") they put themselves out there as a target for harm to come there way. I garontee you wont find any hookers on the street corners here in town. To me it sounds like anouther reason why I will never live in a large city. Do I have simpathy for the dead? Of course I do but if they truly where hookers then it is diminished a little because instead of tryig to educate themselves or even get a job flipping burgers at the local burgar joint they chose to put themselves in harms way and lead a life that ultimatly cost them there lifes.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
Lary said I would find this story here in the "Other" forum but I can't find it, if you can post the link please.

I have to ask why it is not a hot topic? Where is the outrage for the dead girls? Is because most were under class or maybe hookers? Is it because they are black? 11 dead and counting. Tell me what you think.

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I'm trying to figure out, what's yer point??

Are you trying to compare this story to the cold-blooded murder and wounding of about 40 of our nation's defenders (military) by an Islamic/muslim terrorist?? I'm NOT getting the connection.

13 people wearing a uniform that represents defending a nation and protecting YOUR right to come onto site such as this, so you can "voice" your opinion about ANYTHING you desire, compared to a crazed and mentally deficient person methodically raping and killing some hookers??

OTHER than the loss of life in each scenario, I DON'T see ANY connection or comparison!! Are you just going for the "shock" value or just trying to make a repugnant "racial" political statement out of the tragedy of people losing their lives??
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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GMScott you made the connection and actually said it well for the most part this time. The dead girls and women were someones sisters and mothers and daughters and even though they were at the bottom of our society their deaths should not be ignored. The connection you made about them being killed by a "crazed and mentally deficient person methodically raping and killing" fits the description of the major (minus the rape part). That is what people should be upset about not his religion.

You tend to make political statements all the time and often with religious if not "racial" overtones, so your last statement may be a pot and kettle thing.
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CamperAndy
GMScott you made the connection and actually said it well for the most part this time. The dead girls and women were someones sisters and mothers and daughters and even though they were at the bottom of our society their deaths should not be ignored. The connection you made about them being killed by a "crazed and mentally deficient person methodically raping and killing" fits the description of the major (minus the rape part). That is what people should be upset about not his religion.
Guess you haven't been watching much news lately.

The Ft. Hood shooter's RELIGION was what it was ALL ABOUT!!

He was NOTHING more than a murdering TERRORIST, like ALL the rest of the terrorists preying upon the innocent, despite what your kind would like to believe OR IGNORE!!

TERRORIST, TERRORIST, terrorist!!
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 11:38 AM
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Camper,

For me it's, I guess, just a matter of being numb. There is so much death and violence in our society, so much demonizing and opinionated rhetoric that it just seems like society is breaking down. Even you are attacked for being concerned with the statement "despite what your kind would like to believe, OR IGNORE!!" As though you are part of the problem when you are actually concerned and asking for reasons! Some have their minds all made up and are uninterested in finding causes because they already know more than anyone else.

The Fort Hood shooting is also a bigger, high impact story because it was sudden and happened to service members and involved a Muslim.

It's weird that we would try to decide if a story of murder is important or not by first determining the potential value of the victims. As though, if they occupy a lower segment of our society, they somehow have no value or are to blame for their own deaths.

At this point, the Fort Hood shooter should not be just categorized as a simple terrorist, unless we don't care to find the root cause, and possibly prevent it from happening again. He was a career officer and, so far seems to have no tie with traditional terrorists. More like the postal worker that finally snaps. Or the religious fanatic wound up in his own rhetoric. He was very disgruntled and should have been dealt with, obviously had conflicts he could not resolve and was ready to snap. How dangerous does somebody have to appear before they pass the threshold and get attention?

The serial killer appeared completely harmless and docile. And people didn't want to have much to do with him because he was dirty and his area smelled so bad. It gives reason for pause to think people this dangerous can be in our neighborhoods and among us without being recognized for who they are. It's hard to imagine what the solution to these problems is. But, to me, the solution does not lie in deciding if the victims had value or accusing you of being a particular "kind". It also does not come from screaming Terrorism! It's murder, it is terrible and when it comes from those among us, it has to be understood to be stopped. There is so much of it, both here and overseas, and so much of the justification is that "they are bad and we are good". The value of life is fading farther and farther away. People are yelling at each other as though we are all enemies. Sad.
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:47 PM
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John - That was a well written post.
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