Something to be aware of
Something to be aware of
Found this on www.TheHighRoad.org
I didn't even know these newer alarms existed.
Something to be aware of for those who "carry".
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...threadid=85718
Ed
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Did I Handle This Right??
As I exited a nearby convenience store yesterday here in Las Vegas with my little 6 year old son at my side, we were just stepping off the curb outside the door headed to our nearby truck with a load of ice for a Scout picnic. At that time, I noticed four 20-something young men with baggy clothes exiting their vehicle and moving towards us - and towards the door of the convenience store. I was physically located between them and my little guy.
About 4 seconds passed. As I opened the rear door of the truck and helped my little boy up, I heard the distinct sound of two gunshots coming from the direction of the 4 young men. I pushed my little boy down into the floorboard, wheeled around to the right drawing my condition one Kimber .45 and took the safety off as I tried to get down into as low a profile as I could and lined up my firearm on the closest target.
The four young men were to say the least startled and shocked by the sight of my drawing down my firearm on them. But I thought honestly in that moment I was about to defend myself and my son with all the training and practice I could muster at that moment.
All four stopped dead in their tracks, and two raised their hands. The one closest to me blurted out "Custom-made Car Alarm" to explain the sound of the gunshots I heard. I kept my gun on them for what seemed then to be a long time -- just in case it was a decoy action on their part, and then I stood up, lowered my gun to a ready position and suggested maybe it would be MUCH safer and much smarter -- especially in this day and time -- to use the standardized short horn honk or electronic chip-chip sound instead of the sound of gunfire. I told them I a meant no harm to them but that the sound of that car alarm caused me to be in fear for my life and that of my young son.
The one young man holding the car keys just sneered a smart-*** look (as if it was funny) as he moved towards the store, but the man in the far rear with his hands still up just said "Yes Sir."
I was not aware of any reaction by anyone at the gas pumps nearby nor anyone driving into or out of the parking area. But I had the distinct impression that the young man in the rear who gave a respectful reply was going to have to change his pants very soon.
I re-holsted my sidearm, pulled my unbottoned Hawaiian shirt back over my t-shirt, checked on my son (who was crying and scared), and then after comforting him and helping him calm down, departed the scene.
Any thoughts or suggestions???
__________________
CAPTAIN MIKE
I didn't even know these newer alarms existed.
Something to be aware of for those who "carry".
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthrea...threadid=85718
Ed
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * *
Did I Handle This Right??
As I exited a nearby convenience store yesterday here in Las Vegas with my little 6 year old son at my side, we were just stepping off the curb outside the door headed to our nearby truck with a load of ice for a Scout picnic. At that time, I noticed four 20-something young men with baggy clothes exiting their vehicle and moving towards us - and towards the door of the convenience store. I was physically located between them and my little guy.
About 4 seconds passed. As I opened the rear door of the truck and helped my little boy up, I heard the distinct sound of two gunshots coming from the direction of the 4 young men. I pushed my little boy down into the floorboard, wheeled around to the right drawing my condition one Kimber .45 and took the safety off as I tried to get down into as low a profile as I could and lined up my firearm on the closest target.
The four young men were to say the least startled and shocked by the sight of my drawing down my firearm on them. But I thought honestly in that moment I was about to defend myself and my son with all the training and practice I could muster at that moment.
All four stopped dead in their tracks, and two raised their hands. The one closest to me blurted out "Custom-made Car Alarm" to explain the sound of the gunshots I heard. I kept my gun on them for what seemed then to be a long time -- just in case it was a decoy action on their part, and then I stood up, lowered my gun to a ready position and suggested maybe it would be MUCH safer and much smarter -- especially in this day and time -- to use the standardized short horn honk or electronic chip-chip sound instead of the sound of gunfire. I told them I a meant no harm to them but that the sound of that car alarm caused me to be in fear for my life and that of my young son.
The one young man holding the car keys just sneered a smart-*** look (as if it was funny) as he moved towards the store, but the man in the far rear with his hands still up just said "Yes Sir."
I was not aware of any reaction by anyone at the gas pumps nearby nor anyone driving into or out of the parking area. But I had the distinct impression that the young man in the rear who gave a respectful reply was going to have to change his pants very soon.
I re-holsted my sidearm, pulled my unbottoned Hawaiian shirt back over my t-shirt, checked on my son (who was crying and scared), and then after comforting him and helping him calm down, departed the scene.
Any thoughts or suggestions???
__________________
CAPTAIN MIKE
I'd say you handled it perfectly. No harm no foul. Nice to know that the reflexes are working to spec. The only thing that I could possibly suggest is to loose the Hawiian shirt.
BTW nice piece and thanks for the heads up, this was news to me.
I hope you made a contribution to the local economy while you were in town.
BTW nice piece and thanks for the heads up, this was news to me.
I hope you made a contribution to the local economy while you were in town.
Shovelhead: Admirably done in this situation. I can imagine that a less stable personality would have been in danger of starting to shoot. Your reflexes to get ready to shoot and in the same time to protect the kid and giving only low profile is exactly right IMHO- but the most important part was not to shoot. I recommend you for your cool head.
My best wishes to your son too, I hope he'll get over it soon. (Still better to be scared at the age of six than being shot dead at the same age)- Maybe it would be good to have a long talk and some explaining and training for situations like this one- how to duck and cover etc.
AlpineRAM
My best wishes to your son too, I hope he'll get over it soon. (Still better to be scared at the age of six than being shot dead at the same age)- Maybe it would be good to have a long talk and some explaining and training for situations like this one- how to duck and cover etc.
AlpineRAM
Post to clarify:
This didn't happen to me, but to another member of www.thehighroad.com who posted his experience.
I found this on that site and wanted others to be aware that these type alarms existed.
Ed
PS: My son is 22 years old.
This didn't happen to me, but to another member of www.thehighroad.com who posted his experience.
I found this on that site and wanted others to be aware that these type alarms existed.
Ed
PS: My son is 22 years old.
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Shovelhead, I read and reread some of the posts to the guy in LasVegas pulling his .45 to defend himself and his 6 year old son after hearing the kids car alarm that sounded like gun shots. Guns (and gun noises) are not toys! I did not know those alarms existed either, but with sound effects and celphone tones available for download on the web, no doubt it's simple. I hope those kids realize before someone gets hurt, they should've chosen another soundeffect. Real gun shots are familiar sounds in my "neighborhood" because we often target shoot and sight in our long guns prior to hunting season. Gunshots do not make me nervous, but I understand why it does to some.
Then I imagine what the newspaper headline would report the following day after an innocent someone gets hurt, then someone’s mama starts another anti-handgun campaign, then because it’s popular, another AlGore type person decides to use an anti-gun platform to run for office and heaven forbid gets elected. There I go again. I think it’s time for me to stick my Bin Laden target back up and waste a few. Nat
Then I imagine what the newspaper headline would report the following day after an innocent someone gets hurt, then someone’s mama starts another anti-handgun campaign, then because it’s popular, another AlGore type person decides to use an anti-gun platform to run for office and heaven forbid gets elected. There I go again. I think it’s time for me to stick my Bin Laden target back up and waste a few. Nat
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