http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/04...qi-abuse-case/

 

That is FANTASTIC news!!!!

 

I think the final score will end up being Seals 2 Scum 1. The guy that actually hit the detainee will get something, weather he deserves it or not is another topic.

 

Right on!!! Hope they all get their names cleared. Here is a good saying "dead men tell no tales", maybe next time there might be an accidental discharge of a weapon and all problems will be solved.

 

You beat me to it.. I think a properly placed 308 would have prevented this whole problem..

 

i just hope they all get cleared

 

how do you know anyone was hit?

 

Testimony from a sailor that was doing guard duty at the detention facility. I have no way to determine the veracity of the witness but there is no one disputing that the detainee was hit.

 

^^^^ the real crime was he was not hit enough.

 

I'm not in the military but have great respect for those that are. What I don't get is the fact that when in the line of active war duty how does one determine human rights? It just seems that these two phrases or comments couldn't possibly be used in the same article. Anyone help me understand this point or position? thanks.

 

Well it is the Geneva convention that details once captured it should be hands off. Had the SEALs beat the ever living crap out of him during the capture nothing would have been said. Once he is in chains in a detention center he is no longer fair game. Just a matter of timing.

It would have been better and safer for the SEALs had they just called in a predator strike.

 

"Application
The Geneva Conventions apply at times of war and armed conflict to governments who have ratified its terms. The details of applicability are spelled out in Common Articles 2 and 3. The reader should recognize the controversial nature of the topic of applicability. When the Geneva Conventions apply, governments must surrender a certain degree of their national sovereignty to comply with international law. These laws may not be entirely harmonious with their national constitution or their cultural values. Despite the advantages offered by the Conventions to individuals, political pressures may cause the governments to be reluctant in accepting its responsibilities."

Possibly guilty of UCMJ violation of "action unbecoming of a soldier" is all I really see them being guilty of. JMHO. That is if the jury agrees.

 

Like my Platoon Sergeant used to say "Would you rather be judged by twelve or carried by six". Sometimes you gotta make the decision and pray a jury sees it your way if it comes to that.

 

Here's a story fo you, terrorist blows up Americans, terrorist captured by Lt. Mike, interrogated. Lt. Mike ordered to return terrorist home, Lt. Mike asks that terrorist be interrorgated again, request denied, Lt. Mike ordered to return terrorist home.

On the way home Lt. Mike disobeys order and decides to interrogate terrorist himself, terrorist shot, gov't says Lt. Mike executed terrorist, Lt. Mike says terrorist attacked him, killed terrorist in self-defense

Lt. Mike sentenced to 25 years (now reduced to 15 years) in Leavenworth, expert witness says prosecutors withheld evidence from the defense that would prove it was self-defense

probably should have gotten a dishonorable discharge and maybe a small amount of stockade time, not 15 years in Leavenworth

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Excelent news, there is still hope!

Thanks to all who serve or have served!