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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Runners: I found the ultimate running shoe

Asics Gel Kinsei.

After throwing away $150 on some Nike Air Max 360s (junk!), I went back to Asics, the only brand of shoe that has always pleased me.

Score! Even though I only do about 10-20miles a week and my 5K time is about 25min, these things are great. No plantar fasciitis pain in the morning. No aching back. No shin splints.

Yes, they are ridiculously expensive for a running shoe.

Yes, they are worth EVERY penny-- especially if you are like me and have joint and back pains from time to time.

Now if only I would eat less ice cream and drop about 15#, I could probably run at lot faster


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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Good to know. I've gotten back into running in the morning. I don't remember it hurting quite so much when I was 15
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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Nike's are the only shoe that I have found that fit my foot well, I kill a pair every 3 months, so it does not matter that much anyway. Once I get off this rock, I'm getting a few pairs of shoes, one for the track, one for trails, one for pavement.

I used to run 3 miles in less than 18... I'm around 19:50 now...
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by madhat

I used to run 3 miles in less than 18... I'm around 19:50 now...
Uh oh! Gettin slow there Senior!!

Not that I can talk my fastest time was 20:20. Though it only took me 23 with a 40lb pack. Man, those were the days. Now I would be lucky to run 1 mile in 23 min.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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I've been running in the Asics Gel Kayano. I'm about ready for another pair. I'm pretty much set on Asics now. I might try the Kinsei since you seem to like them so much. Remember, you CAN haggle in the shoe store. My shoes were $115 and I walked out the door with them for $85 and 6 pairs of socks.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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They Kayanos are great shoes, too.

As MADHAT alluded to, different brands fit different feet. My feet don't do well in a Nike. I have high arches and overpronate pretty strongly, so ASICS work really well. I've also had good results with New Balance in a slightly narrower (C-width) size.

I got my Kinseis for $130-- retail is $160, which is stupid high.

After wearing them this long, I've come to feel they are a killer bargain. Time will tell how long they hold up.

My Nike 360s are now the most expensive yardwork shoes on the planet.


Oh, and MADHAT-- a little while back (40lb lighter) I had my 6 mile time < 40 min at 7K elevation.

After getting REALLY tubby, I'm getting there, slowly but surely. I have about 15# more before my BMI hits that 25 mark, then more loss after that would be gravy.

I'd be happy at 185, but happier at 175.. Stuck on 200 for 3 months now.

It's that darned Slow Churned Dreyer's
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:21 PM
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I love them too. I also run in Brooks. Had really good luck with those and they've lasted about 600 miles or so. No more shin splints or arch pain with the Brooks.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by HOHN

It's that darned Slow Churned Dreyer's
Nah, blame it on the job... Being a carpenter I work most of the stuff I eat off quickly, I lost 10 pounds when I got married, took me 2 years (and quitting framing to go back to triming) to regain it

I am debating trying to take up running. I need to do something about my endurance. I'm getting old I'll be 25 this month.

Actually, I'm trying to stay in shape, any tips on the running thing, as I never have ran so after a block or so I'm sick of it.
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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I run in brooks beast edition. Though I dont think I am built for running. Being 6'5 and a 3 billa gorilla I flatten out a shoe in no time. So for so good with the brooks. Like Jack, no shin splints and or back problems. Now as far my time goes........ Much more to be desired, but I am working on it and will get there!
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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Hmmm .... may have to try them out. Hard to find ones that actually last.

For those of you who plan on making running a steady part of your workout routine ... I would highly recommend that you attend a running shoe clinic to find out exactly what type of sole your shoe needs to have based on your type of instep. I attended one about a year ago and had no idea how much of a benefit that would be and how it affected my running.
I always thought that the different type of rubber material that you see on one side or the other of the shoe sole was for looks ... WRONG !! It is to correct the way you plant your foot. Pronation, flat-feet, high arches etc ...

The technicians will have you walk on a special pad that actually maps your foot and uses that and a video of you running (side, front and rear views) to analyze what your feet and legs are doing when you run. I found out that I have normal arches but the front of my feet roll outward slightly each step when I run.

Most of the better shoes have a code inside the shoe or on the tongue that tell what type of shoe it is. You may find that one certain shoe feels great on your foot while walking around the store but in the end, actually causes you problems in the way of shin splints, lower back and joint pain as well.

I also found out that if you run regularly, that your shoes are physically worn out long before the shoe looks to be. The elasticity in the rubber deteriorates fairly quickly when subjected to several hundred pounds per square inch being slammed on it repeatedly.

Thanks for the recommendation, HOHN !!

PISTOL
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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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Custom insole's are worth every penny very comfortable with a good shoe like the Asics makes the morning run so much better.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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I recently moved to NewBalance and have found them to be comfortable and durable for the shorter-duration running I've been doing. However as Pistol Whipt illudes to, besides the shoe itself, finding a good quality shoe store with people who actually know what they are talking about and are runners themselves is invaluable. I would far rather pay $95 in a good quality store & keep them in business, than pay $80 for the same shoes in a "Big Box" store and watch another family business go under. Just my $.02.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 12:17 AM
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Nah, blame it on the job... Being a carpenter I work most of the stuff I eat off quickly, I lost 10 pounds when I got married, took me 2 years (and quitting framing to go back to triming) to regain it

I am debating trying to take up running. I need to do something about my endurance. I'm getting old I'll be 25 this month.

Actually, I'm trying to stay in shape, any tips on the running thing, as I never have ran so after a block or so I'm sick of it.
Job has a lot to do with it. I'm polishing a chair's important part for at leat 6 hrs a day. It makes it really hard to be active.

I'm hoping my next job lets me get out more.

Justin
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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I won't even look at Nikes & Reeboks, i hurt way too much if i wear them.

i had new balances for years, but started back running hard here lately,
mile to mile and half in morning, around neighborhood,
and mile and half to three miles in afternoon on base, while wife is in gym.

switched to ASICs last pair of shoes, much better than NB's for some reason
not much pain or strain. wore them out ~3 months.

lost 10 pounds so far, in about a month.

had been running off and on just in afternoon, with NO results; other than some stamina gained.

i put a set of these in my shoe, UNDER the OEM insole, gives me the padding needed for my age (40)

http://www.happyfeet.net/
if I could afford them, would have them in all my shoes.
wash them in washing machine ever so often.



I also put a double triangle of mole foam under the arch,
that keeps my arch up.
i have to do this in ALL my shoes, dress & work, boots, and tenny shoes

this pretty much quadruples the amount of time I can spend on my feet.
every time i buy new shoes, i buy another pack, and put two triangles under each arch area.

http://www.beyondoutside.com/ItemDes...h1-med-drmolfo

with the Asics Shoes, the Mods above, and running twice a day, i have
REALLY picked up some steam.

got speed, endurance and stamina back to good levels.

once you can FEEL a difference in one of these areas, you will want more, and will run more to get it.

one the office girls told me "your butt ain't as big as it used to be.."
i took that as a lop-sided compliment, and it made me run harder.
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Old Oct 11, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PistolWhipt
Hmmm .... may have to try them out. Hard to find ones that actually last.

For those of you who plan on making running a steady part of your workout routine ... I would highly recommend that you attend a running shoe clinic to find out exactly what type of sole your shoe needs to have based on your type of instep. I attended one about a year ago and had no idea how much of a benefit that would be and how it affected my running.
I always thought that the different type of rubber material that you see on one side or the other of the shoe sole was for looks ... WRONG !! It is to correct the way you plant your foot. Pronation, flat-feet, high arches etc ...

The technicians will have you walk on a special pad that actually maps your foot and uses that and a video of you running (side, front and rear views) to analyze what your feet and legs are doing when you run. I found out that I have normal arches but the front of my feet roll outward slightly each step when I run.

Most of the better shoes have a code inside the shoe or on the tongue that tell what type of shoe it is. You may find that one certain shoe feels great on your foot while walking around the store but in the end, actually causes you problems in the way of shin splints, lower back and joint pain as well.

I also found out that if you run regularly, that your shoes are physically worn out long before the shoe looks to be. The elasticity in the rubber deteriorates fairly quickly when subjected to several hundred pounds per square inch being slammed on it repeatedly.

Thanks for the recommendation, HOHN !!

PISTOL

Seems like i seen something about this on "HOW IT MADE" looked pretty cool how they can map out your foot step and correct the way you walk.
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