mine to.i hope you all notice that most of us up here ars wise enough to mind our own buisness.!

 

He must be kidding.... Kerry is a Forbes, "John Forbes Kerry" this includes two incomes from the Forbes trusts. There are world wide connections there. Spent his summers as a kid at the Forbes mansion in France. His cousin housed the wife of Oswald and the 6.5 rifle in her house, you must remember, the JFK killing...

His grandfather was born in China, made the family fortune in the Opium wars of China. His sister was a teacher in Iran, tried to destroy the connection between Australia and the US by overthrowing the PM of Australia.

Another cousin ran for President of France.

Sweet family, did I mention he is a traitor? Had two meetings with both the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese Government. Admitted to one. Collaborating with the enemy is a capital offense.

Actually the Kennedy's and Forbes' have a lot in common, Kennedy got his wealth from running Whisky, Forbes from Opium. So much more respectable than the oil business .

Course, Bush drank whisky and smoked pot, he's the bad guy... or so sKerry says.

 

Lies??? Did you find Osama? Weapons of Mass destruction? Heck you were not even expecting to find any.

Did George provide enough people to preserve order? to guard the priceless antiquities in museums?

He did not even tell the army to watch a storage facility he had tagged as having WMD's.

Opinions..... well I guess I am guilty as charged. Do you know why Canadian troops were sent to Afghanistan and not to Iraq? Remember we were in on the two world wars five years ahead of the US. I'll bet you did not know that the UN Universal declaration of Human Rights was authored by a Canadian who refused to take credit for it. That Peace Keeping was a Canadian invention by a liberal Toronto University Professor who later became prime minister because of his brains and positive affect on world events.

 

What does that have to do with your conspiracy theory? Come on Bill, some common sense here man. Your notion is ludicrous.

We weren't? What makes you think that? I'd like you to go into more detail on what facts you're using to come to such a conclusion. The UN believed they had them, Kerry believed it, Bush believed it, Howard Dean believed and so on, and so on.... When it's politically convenient, Kerry changes his position, and suddenly comes against the war. What does he do? He voted for the war, then chose not to provide funding to keep our troops safe, and to help the rebuilding of Iraq.

He provided what they asked him for, and has done so repeatedly. What about the rebuilding? Do you talk about that at all? no. What about the upcoming election in Iraq? What about the election in Afghanistan? How come you don't talk about those historic things that are turning these countries around. I've already explained my position on the insurgants, but it seems that you conveniently skip over the facts, and go back to your conspiracy theories. Some of them are doozies by the way.

Maybe because the troops that have been there are busy guarding human life to tbe best of their ability, and working to kill and destroy terrorists and insurgants. They're also busy helping rebuild schools, to rebuild power plants, and to provide infrastructure. How priceless is that?

Say what? Not true. Any weapons facility FOUND to have WMD's would have been guarded. If you're talking about the alleged 300+ tons of HMX, then you should check your facts. Facts have come out now that its known that the amount was actually 3 tons, and that the stuff was gone before we even got there. So either way you try to argue it, you're wrong.

Wow, amazing. ...and my Dad is bigger than your dad...

 

Did you know that the British and other Imperial Interests forced China to take Opium as a trade good in the Opium Wars. That every major power grabbed a hunk of Chinese coastline as a result. Shanghai was the one you got. Did you know that Chinese youths, upholding their culture and traditions fought without arms to push the French, British, Americans, Portuguese and Germans out of China. They used their hands and were called, "Boxers" because of it. The "
Boxer Rebellions".

I did mention that Kerry is mediocre but he is the best you have.

 

And my mom is bigger than..........

 

According to the Bush spin machine 300 tonnes is now 3 tons? Not according to today's news.

 

When are you going to get the message? People don't like having their homes destroyed, their children killed.

Especially after having lived under the Saddam regime and UN blocade. They are not ever going to like people who are killing them. What would it have cost to wait for the international process to finish Saddam?

You would have enough troops to finish the job in Afghanistan or prevent the genocide in Sudan. Although be a little more careful with everybody in Afghanistan. Friendly fire still hurts and it some of the folks killed were from my home town.

 

A teacher in a small Vermont town asks her class how many of them are
John Kerry fans. Not really knowing what a John Kerry fan is, but
wanting to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raise their hands
except one boy.

The teacher asks Johnny why he has decided to be different.

Johnny says, "I'm not a John Kerry fan."

The teacher says, "Why aren't you a John Kerry fan?"

Johnny says, "I'm a George Bush fan."

The teacher asks why he's a George Bush fan.

The boy says, "Well, my mom's a George Bush fan and my dad's a George
Bush fan, so I'm a George Bush fan!"

The teacher is kind of angry, because this is Vermont, so she asks,
"What if your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot, what would
that make you?"

Johnny says, "That would make me a John Kerry fan."

 

Dear Haulin-in-Dixie:

George was handed company after company which he duly bankrupted. He was then loaned half a million to buy into a worthless baseball team which became valuable when he got the public and government to build a stadium for ... with taxpayer dollars... a great sin for a republican. After this he sold out No lifetime of work. He just used his rich buddies and they all got richer on the backs of the ordinary guy. Try to remember that nothing says that one candidate is good and the other is bad. They all have warts... hidden by a lot of money and all are too dependent on great wealth for any hope of success. You have your work cut out fixing this one. We do here as well. Bit by bit we chop away at election funding issues and conflict of interests.

 

Well you got that right. He is mediocre. He's also the best we have for something. I'm not sure what though. It's definately not president.

I'm done with this because it's pointless to argue these matters with someone who can't even vote on them in the first place.

 

Bill, nice dog. I'll leave it at that. Your politics have no credibility with me because you're posting conspiracy theories now without backing it up. Like I said, nice dog.

 

You haven't gone unnoticed and you are appreciated

 

Jack

The Bush - Bin Ladden link is a fact. It is not a wild conspiracy theory. Osama is a rather nasty part of a family with a major presence in the US and in Texas. Nobody is suggesting GW is in league with Osama. The Bushes are friends of the Bin Laddens and George has never denied it.

 

Jack I've been following this thread for awhile and I can't for the life of me figure out why anything that a Democrat posts is all "conspiracy thories and has no credibility" yet when ever a Rebublican posts something we all are supposed to pretend that it came from "The Burning Bush". What's up with that??? Does anyone not have any credibitily except Republicans. Come on now you know what Bill was talking about the "only" planes that were allowed to leave the country were the saudi's. It all doesn't add up to me. The WMD and the war have never been explained. I thought the guy responsible for 9/11 was Bin Laden and he lived in Afgan. Three years later and we are no closer to him than we were from day one but we invaded another country and took 11hundred casualties,for what???? The way I see it this administration is trying to democratize the world and I don't see that happening. Or is it perhaps that those "right wing christians" are trying to Save It. This reminds me of the "Crusades". A religious war. Just thinking out loud.