Well Thank the Lord it is our Country... You can worry about your own.

Just My opinion

 

Bill, do me a favor and aim for my wheel barrow the next time you go to spread a load of BS like that again I can use the fertilizer for next years crops

On second thought you better just aim for the garden, no way can we get that much BS in one wheel barrow

 

Laughing My Right Wing Bottem Off

 

Coming from Canada, I find this kind of humorous. I did hear a nasty rumor that your country is actually planning a memorial for those who avoided the draft. I suppose Bill Clinton would do well there. I'm not saying this against your people, but your government. Sounds like you might be as far left as they are. Anything even close to moderate might be seen as right wing in your eyes. I don't know you well, so I'm not sure.

No. Where is your proof that he did? You obviously didn't read the stories afterward about the numerous independent recounts that clearly showed Bush the winner of that election.

Huh? You're losing me here. I'm not sure who you're talking about. If you're talking about Bush, I guess in a way you could se he IS the chosen one, right?

Actually, he does talk about his religion to just about anyone who will listen. He also states that it's a personal relationship between he and God, and he does not force his religion on anyone. He's spoken more than a few times about how wonderful our countries based on that freedom, to believe, or not. Either way, he makes it clear that believers and non-believers alike are equal citizens in our country. What is your point here?

Depends on what you mean by rich. I'm sure they can. I don't see why they couldn't. I don't have a lot of money, but I'm rich in many other ways. Does having a lot of money automatically make people horrible, and unddeserving?

The founding fathers were by fact, religious people. The fact that they would consider allowing people to be free FROM religion, would only proves how gracious they really were. George Bush also believes in allowing freedom FROM religion. Again, what is your point?

They never meant to seperate Church and State. That was a letter written to an organization from a President, not part of the constitution. If you bother to read it, you won't find such a mention.

ahh, the good ole' McCarthyism claims. Come on now. You can do better than that. Poor old Alger Hiss, right? After the fall of the Soviet Union, you do know I hope that many of the documents from the KGB archives were released. You would also know then that much of the American Communist Party were communist and KGB operatives. You ought to get a book called, "You Now Know." You might find it interesting. It's written by John Gaddi.


I can't argue the apathy and ignorance part. I can't argue that at all. I sadly see this every single day when trying to have political discussions with many of my friends, and even some family. They are uninformed. I don't believe that Democracy is the worst form of government however. Either way, we're not actually a democracy down here. We're a federation/republic, just for the record.

No, it's not. But who said it was?

I'm not sure what you mean by that since this IS the first preemptive war we've fought from this country. How long do you want to wait before you decide that other methods have been exhausted? In case you forgot, the UN waited for 12 years, and more than 14 resolutions before someone had the gumption to do anything about it.

The lack of concern for life? I'd like you to explain this in more detail. I'm not comfortable responding to that at the moment because it's not making sense to me.

Cute. No response warranted. How's that social medicine up there?

 

My opinion too.

 

How far to the extreme right have US politics drifted if you see Kerry as a Kommy and Bush as a centerist moderate?? I thought North Korea had all the expertise in brain washing. Commercial media has drifted from selling soap to selling right-wing politics.
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Kerry hung around with the Kommys...it's a fact

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Did or did not Jeb Bush transfer his Gubernatorial Staff to the GW campaign in Florida - after to polls closed WITH the instruction to get George elected by manipulating recounts?
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I've never seen proof of theat...show me.

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When you see yourself as the "Chosen One" can any lie or manipulation or sneaky tactic be unethical? After all, in the great religious wars of our past was any tactic too foul to be used?
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I don't know....ask Saddam, Hitler, Mussolini, etc.

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Have you ever noticed how careful GW is to NOT get specific about his religious beliefs other than a general agreement with the religious right. Does he take the Bible to be completely and literally true? Can a rich man enter the gates of Heaven? Should one turn the other cheek?
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He has said numerous time that he believes in one God, but does not want to try to force his beliefs on anyone. For the record, I'm considered fairly rich by some, will not turn the other cheek, and I plan to enter the Gates of Heaven.
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The comments about the Vietnamese government today are odd. They are bad while the Saudi dictatorship is good. Sounds like if we like you (or need you) you are GOOD and if we don't like you (or need you) you are bad.
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Who said a dictatorship has to be bad?

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China is good because we trade with them, they buy our scrap metal and sell us cheap stuff (Walmart) but Vietnam is bad.
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You know what they say about opinions..I happen to like Wally World.

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Is might always right? Can our world survive without a high degree of give and take? Must we continue to play with fire by using the force of arms before other methods have been exhausted?
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Since time began, the guy with the biggest club got the most attention. As for Iraq, it is not everyones opinion that the "other methods" had not been
exhausted.
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There are aspects of today's situation which are like politics in Imperial Rome. The military, the mob, the "free shows" and the lack of any concern for life except as an adjunct to conservative sexual morality.
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Huh?

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By the way, are you guys sure your not just trying to re-hash your Civil War?
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I guess I've flipped parties, but yes, there are still things about the Civil War that still tick me off.

No opinion on the things left off........

 

Hmmmmmmm.....guess I need to learn to type faste

 

Crobtex

"who says a dictatorship has to be bad"

They have to be bad. Problems arise in every society. In a democracy, people are free to criticize and rulers can adjust. In a dictatorship, everyone is afraid of the power of the ruler or ruling elite. Even those close to the dictator fear displeasing him. The dictator is surrounded by people who agree with everything he says but may be plotting to replace him. The result is increased paranoia and increased fear. Soon, the wheels start to wobble and so it goes.

 

I respect your opinion, and for the most part you are correct. I just happen to believe that it doesn't always have to be bad.

I don't want to try living under one to find out, just my opinion.

 

Jack

I prepared a long winded reply to your carefully prepared posting and the evil gods of computer hardware ate it. You wouldn't have liked it much. The one you had me on was the specific evidence on the Jeb B organization. I saw it on the tube and don't remember the names involved.

As far as the medical care thing is concerned, I submit this:

My wife managed a medical facility in the US. She was astounded at the quality of care she received here. She had access to and used some of the best clinics in Min. including the Mayo. Our doctor here refered her to a specialist who put her in the hospital immediately and performed surgery as soon as it was determined necessary. For all of this work and for an extended stay in a good hospital we paid nothing. Not even ten cents. She was operated on by an Iraqi doctor the day you invaded. He was a refugee from when Saddam was the US's best friend. He has always hated Saddam.

As Alberta has now and has always had a right wing government, we are the only Canadians who must pay health care premiums: 60 USD per month for a family. No businessman has to fire an employee because of a family member's chronic illness.

My wife was dismayed when she found out that the total cost of many medications (which we had to pay for, for her, as she was/is an American) was less than the copay she had to pay in the US for the same American made drug under an excellent medical insurance policy.

We do not permit drug companies to advertise. This cuts costs. We have far fewer medical law suits and a far less adversarial relationship between all sectors of the industry. Doctors perform services that are needed. We must invest more money into our system to reduce wait times for some, non-life-threatening procedures. We have problems. In Alberta, the government has cut spending and is driving some specialists out of province or the country. It is a critical issue in the upcoming Alberta provincial election and could see a change in government over it.

I would love to answer your questions. You can email me anytime.

 

Erics76

I am worried about my country, your country and the world. No one can exist without affecting others. Your country has enormous power for good or bad. It is the most powerful country in the world today. It was even when your cold warriors were making us fear the Russians while in reality the Russians could not even care for their own people adequately.

I can not believe you think it is a good example to all in the world to use power to force your way on others. Is this not what you objected to about British rule?
What if China decides to invade a country in the western hemisphere because it has a bad ruler? China is rapidly becoming the second most powerful country in the world. Will it pass the US? Will we have to accept what it forces on us?

It is all about imperialism. The belief that one country is better than another and deserves to rule over it. Can we not shed this dangerous notion?

Why did George open the door for terrorists in Iraq by invading........ they were not there when the invasion happened but they are there now?? He should have followed the smoking gun right into Saudi Arabia if necessary. Trouble was he was too involved with their oil industry and the Bin Ladden family.

 

Well if nothing else, they aren't here or in your country, right? Don't believe it if you think your country is safe because somehow you're more righteous than the US.

Sure they were. Of course the insurgants (spelling?) came to Iraq, they have to in order to keep their cause ont he front page. In addition, a win in Iraq by the United States would be a HUGE detriment to their cause whatever that may be. Bush said it best about them hijacking a religion in order to further their sick cause. What about the millions of lives saved by what the US has done in Iraq and Afghanistan? You don't mention that, only what you believe (by no facts).

I'm sure over time, we'll do what we have to do in order to stop terrorism, period. I'm sure just as you can't, well, we can't fight a battle in every country either.

That is the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard. I don't understand how someone with such a great taste in dogs could be so politically challenged. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt though, being from the same country who is erecting a memorial for those US traitors who dodged the draft and went there. Now that IS sad.

 

Since when has it be treason to not murder people in a foreign country? There was no declaration of war. You guys set up a nasty puppet regime and then sent the poor kids from your own country to support it, to die for it, to be permanently disabled for it. John Wayne's version of the Vietnam war is not historically correct.

Do you not know about the close and friendly ties between the Bin Ladden family and the Bush family? Did George send all of those aircraft out of the US just because he would do the same for any foreigner?

 

It all well and good that you are worried about my country, but coming on here and spreading lies, opinions, and false information isn't going to help anybody.

It's funny to me how all the Bush haters come on here and bash bash bash Bush. Have you examined john kerry as meticiously as Bush? Or are you one of those "anyone but Bush" people?

 

No, because they didn't exist, except maybe in your world.

You lost me again. You have to be specific Bill. You might want to give some more detail. We send aircraft out of the US every single day. WHAT are you talking about?