I've never said anything about anyone trying to help recoop some money on a long trip.

But now it seem's like there's so many guy's wanting to haul with out authority, or insurance. That's not right, and, correct me if I'm wrong, it's ILLEGAL to engage in commerce with out dot number's, insurance, and authority.

I just feel sorry for the poor guy who get's his boat, or what ever damaged buy someone just trying to make fuel money.

That being said, if it is deemed illegal,(not for me to decide) then just like tampering with exhaust system thread's, I don't think it should be allowed to be posted on this law abiding site.

There's alway's someone posting in the towing section trying to help pay for fuel. And that's putting guy's "In the buisness,,,out of buisness". I wonder how those guy's would like it if I showed up at their work place and tell his boss,,"Hey man,,I'll do his job for half the price". Does anyone agree with me.

Ok,,,I'm done crying.

 

I have to agree absolutely with the do not haul for fuel. As I have said before there are people trying to keep food on the table. It is hard enough to try and make it in the transport business without someone having a hobby or free holiday.

 

I agree as well in principal and would NOT use anyone that was not legal.

 

Yeah, and all the folks that come on this site and ask all kinds of technical question to save a buck or two by doing it themselves are taking money away from licensed dealers and repair facilities, but that is ok?

I see what you are saying, but it is a double edged sword, ask someone to help you by transporting something, or by giving you information, is a favor between two individuals, nothing illegal about that.


Tim

 

I'm not talking about a favor between two buddies. I'm talking about someone getting something off uship, and the guy thinking he's dealing with a ligetimate transporter with the proper credentail's.

 

As soon as dealers stop ripping truck owners off then I'll stop asking for tech info so i can save a buck..dealer had my truck for 9 days..check engine light still on!!??What a joke, I got tired of yelling at them. they had the nads to give me a free oil change

 

If someone off of uship contracts with with a transporter it is up to them to check that persons background for the proper id, insurance,dot number, etc just the same as it would be if you hired what you thought was a licensed builder to for example put an addition on your house you check for their license,ins,reputation.

It is always buyer beware you always need to do your home work first ! RIGHT ???????????????

This applies to almost any purchase or deal you make in your life .

 

I agree with you completely, I did not realize you were talking about a freight service..


Tim

 

I hear you on that, we are lucky to have a site as informative as DTR!


Tim

 

If someone hauls without authority they are not insured . Insurance companies will not issue cargo insurance without proof of authority . Shippers don't realize the risk they are taking by going for the low rate and not asking for proof of insurance .

 

Unless I am mistaken but don't you have to have you dot numbers and insurance stuff before you can take loads off you ship? I know I had to get all the dot numbers but not the insurance deal because I am farm exempt and not hauling for hire but my self and I had to step the weight of my pickups registered for combined weights up to F plates rather than not having my ducks in a row if something happing hauling cattle.

 

Happens here all the time. I have a small buisness with dump trailer rentals and registered my truck acordingly for tha max weight that can be hauled in them. Let's just say it was very pricey and get the required CVOR. I see half ton pick ups with similar dump trailers all the time and they don't even have the annual safety sticker on the truck!

Unfortunatly local police do not have the information like dot and do nothing about these infractions or choose to ignore them.

 

I sell equipment for movers and warehouses. A similar situation exists in the moving world. You would not believe how many movers out there have no insurance or permits or anything at all making them legitimate. How does a mover get around permits to do a long distance move? They just rent a Budget or Penske truck and make sure they have no paperwork on them for their move just in case DOT pulls them in for a check. The crazy thing is that these guys stay as busy as the major van lines and there is no shortage of people willing to give these guys all their worldly possessions and hope that they show up on the other end. All to save a few hundred dollars..... I see it everyday....... I've even had these guys call me up and ask what they are supposed to do now that DOT has shut them down for no permits. I can't help them. We just rented them the truck but it's not our obligation to check for permits although in the next few years that may change.....

I used to do this myself but I always explained to these customers, who sought me out personally, that I am not a legit mover and they should check with their homeowners insurance to make sure they are covered if their friend(Me) who was helping them move damaged anything during transit. My reputation is so good that they never cared. I don't do this anymore since these movers are my customers but I still do a little bit for one of my mover customers and I am covered by all his permits and insurance....

 

U you know what, couldn't care in the least, as long as you get an accepted bid and they get there cut before anything else happens. And, 99.9 out of 100 people posting there crap to be hauled there are only interested in on e thing... move their stuff for the least amount of money possible. Thought I was being generous on my end offering to haul an ugly *** Suburban and a POS camaro from PHX to some hick town up in Idaho for $2000.... but noooo.... too rich for her blood!!!!

 

I see your point but it's not even really an accurate comparison. We have the right to fix our own property as we see fit. And many of us do. That's very different than a guy engaging in commerce with another person when he is not legally entitled to do so. The law has very few provisions to protect you from yourself (unfortunate for some!)but governs actions in relation to others. Its apples and oranges.