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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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Alright guys.........I just got my theater room done downstairs and ran into a small snag........I CAN'T GET MY BIG SCREEN IN THE DANG ROOM!!!! Oh I was mad when I found that out, the problem is the TV is too long to make it around the corner coming down the stairs into the basement........GRRRRRRRRR that sucks.

So my alternative which is a good one I might add, is to get a projector and about a 100" or 110" screen Ok so here is my question for all of you math guys.......how far back do I need to mount that projector to get it to fit on that screen. I know some of those projectors you can adjust some to get it to fit.......but I need some sort of quess on how far is not enough or too much.

Also if I remember right, doesn't the projector have to sit a little bit higher than the screen to project at a downward angle??? I think that's how it goes........I know my dads theater is that way but not sure if it HAS to be mounted that way.

My other prediciment is I have a retarded heat duct in the middle of the room that might screw my plans on any of this. That's why I'm curious as to how far back I need it and how high it needs to be mounted.

So if you kind gents....or ladies could ponder on that for me I'd greatly appreciate it.


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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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I was in a house just before Christmas that had 96" screen. I seem to remember that his projector was mounted further back that I would have expected, like 10-12 feet back and as tight as he could get it to an 8' ceiling?
No walls to temporarly take down or sheetrock that can be removed to make the angle?
AFAIK they all adjust.
Who measured for that thing?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Who measured for that thing?
Well the big screen was bought way before I ever intended on finishing up the basement so at the time it wasn't a problem.................not until now!!!

And sadly no, there isn't any walls that can be removed. Even if I took the drywall off there is still not enough room to get it around the corner. It's a 65" widescreen so it's kinda LARGE!! I had a feeling when I thought about moving it that it was gonna be a problem, just never measured to confirm!!

And the length on the room won't be a problem, I have plenty of room, it's just that dang duct that is kinda worrying me.....I think it's gonna be hanging to low


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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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I take it this duct is running perpendicular to the joists? is it a supply or return?

I'd find a way to relocate that jimmy over to the side wall. If it's running parallel, suck it up into one of the floor joist cavaties.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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Man, I feel for you; I barely made the turn on the stairs to get my 47" widescreen up in the attic.

Can you take the base off and tilt it up longways, maybe?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
I take it this duct is running perpendicular to the joists? is it a supply or return?

I'd find a way to relocate that jimmy over to the side wall. If it's running parallel, suck it up into one of the floor joist cavaties.

Well ( forgot to mention...sorry ) right along side of the duct is an I-beam so even if I moved the duct I'd still have to deal with that

Well we tried to tilt it up on end to persuade it around the corner, but then it hits the overhang and will get wedged if I go any farther. My old big screen was a 52" and that would have fit great, but this 65" is just too dang big and HEAVY..........thing weighs like 300 pounds so it's kinda tough to do a whole lot of manuvering with it.

The stairway just plain sucks, whoever designed that should have been kicked in the dinger!


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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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this sounds like a problem i would like to have...

...as my five year old 32' turns colors.....
wife is dying for a new TV....but she has a entertainment center that only fits a 32

more $ for the truck...

back on track, can you stand it up on end?
pass it in a window?
need help making a window?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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Projectors work nicely. I have one in a room with 8' ceilings. screen material is readily available on ebay (and cheap) to make a nice screen on the wall. each projector has its own throw distances which you can find out at http://www.projectorcentral.com/

Good luck on your project.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 04ctd
need help making a window?

I was actually joking around with my girlfriend about that the other night!!! I was like hmmmm " now would be a good time for a walk out basement!!! Nothing like demolishing your house just to get a stinkin TV where you want it


Yeah I'm pretty sure I'm never going to get sucker in there, without causing more damage than good. Guess I'll just spend the money on a projector and go from there...............but still that's up in the air whether that will work or not...........hmmmm decisions decisions!!!


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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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So if I get your problem correct you can't get the TV around the corner on the stares at the bottom? When we finished our basement we made a half wall on the stares into the basement to open up the stares, you walk half way down and you see into the basement, we were able to get a solid wood box for a pool table through the opening above the stares and below the ceiling. Make sense? It's an option if you want to cut the wall in 1/2 on the stares.

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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So if I get your problem correct you can't get the TV around the corner on the stares at the bottom? When we finished our basement we made a half wall on the stares into the basement to open up the stares, you walk half way down and you see into the basement, we were able to get a solid wood box for a pool table through the opening above the stares and below the ceiling. Make sense? It's an option if you want to cut the wall in 1/2 on the stares.

Bill.

Sadly not an option with mine...........the upstairs is but the downstairs isn't. The house is a Bi-level so when you walk into the basement, the wall on the right is next to the garage, and the wall on the left is a wall for a closet under the stairs. The overhang walking down the stairs is pathetic, it's maybe 6'6 and I'm 6'4 so there isn't much room for movement. I had a heck of a time getting a sectional couch through there if that tells you how tight it is!!!

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Gotlift01
Sadly not an option with mine...........the upstairs is but the downstairs isn't. The house is a Bi-level so when you walk into the basement, the wall on the right is next to the garage, and the wall on the left is a wall for a closet under the stairs. The overhang walking down the stairs is pathetic, it's maybe 6'6 and I'm 6'4 so there isn't much room for movement. I had a heck of a time getting a sectional couch through there if that tells you how tight it is!!!

~Nick
Oh well, I thought it might be an option. I'd love a projection TV like your thinking so keep us posted.

Bill.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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Oh well, I thought it might be an option. I'd love a projection TV like your thinking so keep us posted.

Bill.

Man I wish it was, that's my bread and butter is drywall....but just my luck it won't work.....thanks for the idea though!!!

Yeah I think the projection is gonna be the best option, plus that's what I really want..........so hopefully in a couple days I'll hopefully get that setup!!! I'm gonna go home and do some measurements and see if it's even possible.............I sure as heck hope so!


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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Nick, if you have any questions about setup on a projector based system, shoot me an email. I have put together many of those and I can try to guide you toward what you need. Also, make sure you get a DLP projector, not an LCD projector..... the contrast ratio makes worlds of difference in the image quality.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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Gentlemen, hang in there for just another few months because the Holy Grail of flat screens is coming. Surface-conduction Electron-emitter Display or SED as it's known is just around the corner. Think of standard CRT technology but with no gun neck, and only a couple of inches thick and you've got SED. Cool running and energy effecient too. No DLP rainbows, low contrast, or greenish blacks. This will be the technology that will rule once it gets going into lage scale production. I've been nursing my 36" CRT, even resorting once to a service call, holding out for this technology. It's only a few months away, and I'm glad I waited.
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