Here we go again, MS says most of their operating systems are again vulnerable to another attack: Click Here for CNN article
Scoll down to where the link for the patch is.

 

That's it. I'm going to Linux.

 

windows sucks >

 

I'm going to do a hot boot on my new computer if it gets hit again. > >

 

Microsoft:
"Where Quality is Job Number: 328934.2938-C Build 1381.B Version 34328.3224-A Service Pack 239"
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Rich.

 

;D No Windoze on my computers ;D

Just on my customer's ! Use win, I've got to make a living....

Seroiusly now, I do understand anybody getting fed up with the flaws of windows, and the readiness with which all those hackers do exploit them.

AlpineRAM

 

Red Hat rules thats what I run

 

Well, I have Mandrake, Knoppix, Suse and RedHat. Right now I like Mandrake best.
As a Firewall I use the Advanteh Pro with 4 ports configured. 1 Cable TV
1 DMZ
1 Lan
1 WLan as an access point for a brige to a neighbouring building.

I do hate the Sobig, Blaster etc stuff, makes the net lame, all those useless attacks

AlpineRAM

 

If there were enough Linux boxes out there to make it worth their while, the hackers would be going after it just as hard as they do Windows. Look at the number of times they've broken into Cisco routers as an example. If the Linux bunch thinks it's ready for the prime time average computer user, they've got another think comming.

 

Bart: I think that you are only partially right. First of all there are many distributors of Linux, not only one as with Windows.
Another factor is that Linux is based on a multiuser kernel and not on a single user philosophy. Hence access control is entrenched very deep in the system. Naturally you can circumvent all the security in Linux by doing all as "root".
Under a correctly configured system a user can not change any system stuff. He can only modify his own stuff. Under Windows every user can install software and system programs by default.

Naturally there will be more attacks against Linux boxes if there are more of them. But my hope is that Linux users will still be more careful than the average Windows user.

Your argument about the exploits of Cisco routers are quite valid, but this was also helped by the fact that all the devices were vulnerable to the same exploits.

AlpineRAM

 

Hackers like to use linux boxes as the springboards for attacks on windows systems.

When it comes to OS's. If you build it, they will hack it.

 

[quote author=StakeMan link=board=10;threadid=19558;start=0#msg184063 date=1063404018]
Hackers like to use linux boxes as the springboards for attacks on windows systems.

When it comes to OS's. If you build it, they will hack it.
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Yes, but it's their own Linux boxes they use because the Linux box is not affected by the attack......

Naturally everything built by man can be broken. In my opinion Linux forces you to think more about what you do and what you can allow on you computer. Now most of the major distributions of Linux come as an easy install package with massive security flaws. But if you know what you are doing and configure your system yourself it's really good and tight. To achieve the same level of security under a Windows OS you need to resort to additional software at your expense.

I think a whole lot boils down to personal preference, and I think that each OS has it's merits and downsides. IMHO most of the crap happening now is a direct result of the carelessnes of the users. On the one hand everybody relies on the computer more and more, and on the other hand most people don't do anything about security.

AlpineRAM

 

[quote author=AlpineRAM link=board=10;threadid=19558;start=0#msg184183 date=1063441721]
I think a whole lot boils down to personal preference, and I think that each OS has it's merits and downsides. IMHO most of the crap happening now is a direct result of the carelessnes of the users. On the one hand everybody relies on the computer more and more, and on the other hand most people don't do anything about security.
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You've pretty much nailed it here Alpine. As far as the security of individual OSes goes, they are all vulnerable to the right guy. Linux boxes are currently not targetted by the hacker crowd, however you can indeed break through the security of a Linux box and get access, especially one that the security isn't set up properly on. Our own Linux server at work, which wasn't completely set up well, was recently hacked, as was our Windows network. I've got friends, who were hackers before hacking was evil, that can get into any sytem, any time.

At the U of R, we used to break into the Vax/VMS systems (IMHO, one of the more secure of the systems) and boost our priority levels so we could get our compiles to move along faster on the 6000s.

Rod

 

If there is access to a computer it can be hacked. If man built it, it has flaws.

I have a hardware firewall, and still run my own software firewall on my LAN.

 

I'll share a secret: All these unnecessaary problems can be avoided! (At real low cost too! )

Get guidance at http://www.datadocktorn.nu/us_frag1.php

This is how to efficiently defraggle your harddisk. Other stuff is there too. ;D

AlpineRAM