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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 04:06 PM
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Ever Wonder what's inside ???

My transponder battery died in my 92, so I figured I'd do a little investigating.


I guess I just can't replace the battery, huh ?


I guess it's not as spectacular as I thought. I could have sworn that there was going to be some little elves or some other type of hard working troll in there...

Oh, well.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 05:52 PM
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Making them have a replacable battery would have been way too easy lol. Everything is disposable.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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What is even more spooky is the information that transponder spits out when it nears their antenna.

http://www.ezpassde.com/how_ezpass_works.shtml

http://www.massdot.state.ma.us/highw...LANEWorks.aspx

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/e-zpass2.htm

Its Big Brother I tell you..

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 07:10 PM
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The company I used to work for developed the green light system in Oregon and Washington state. The information we could process was impressive, all at 75 mph and higher (in California we had to recalibrate the system to work at 100 mph as there were some trucks going that fast). Total truck weight, axle weight, grouping weights, wheel weight, truck history, company history, safety record, etc. was all gathered, processed and the driver was given a red or green light if he needed to report to the weigh station or not. This was all done in less than 2 seconds after reading the transponder.

It was a cool job, saw ALLOT of cool stuff (start of the Iditarod dog sled race in Alaska, Peggy's Cove in Nova Scotia, it would be easier to say where I have not been) but the travel almost killed our marriage. They basically said it was my choice to work on the road and be gone all the time or choose my wife. I made the right choice. I'm home every night, no high stress job and better money.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:00 PM
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What is this?
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:11 PM
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What is this?
Click on Jim's links..
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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Oh. I'm picking up what you are laying down now. I wont mud up your thread with any more stupid questions.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:36 PM
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A replacement for stopping to pay tolls.

When they devoloped I-Pass (Illinois' version), they were worried about people speeding through and not getting their mug shot. They accurately got a cop going through at 130mph. Face and all.

There is talk of issuing speeding tickets. If you go from point A to point B faster than expected, they would issue a ticket...

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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Cool, I never knew how those worked. My friend had one in his truck but I never saw it work.

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There is talk of issuing speeding tickets. If you go from point A to point B faster than expected, they would issue a ticket...

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I read they do that over in England, average speed cameras. They use them in construction zones, tunnels etc.
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 08:45 PM
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I went to Buffalo,NY and back today(772 miles round trip)just got back 15 minutes ago.
I took the Ohio turnpike and was wondering about that exact thing,timing you from toll booth to toll booth. Hmmm??
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 10:16 PM
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I went to Buffalo,NY and back today(772 miles round trip)just got back 15 minutes ago.
I took the Ohio turnpike and was wondering about that exact thing,timing you from toll booth to toll booth. Hmmm??
This is what I understand....

( but I'm not a lawyer... but I did stay at a holiday in last night...)


In order for some "offenses" to actually be enforceable, there have to be certain criteria that have to be fulfilled. A real simple idea is ....

They need to prove who was driving.

This being the case, there is a reluctance for the authorities to pursue the "timing and speed" correlation, as with any court proceedings, they can be overturned, or thrown out of court from the start.

IE: Stop light cameras:

the courts have ruled (google them if you wish) that they cannot enforce these fines, as they are actually unable to prove who was driving the vehicle @ the time of the infraction.;. Therefore, thousands and thousands of people who've sent in their "payment" to the city for their "infraction" have done so, without actually being held accountable for doing so. In theory these fines are "voluntary" here is just one of thousands of cases which have been overturned or shot down:

"the state law and that cities could only issue tickets to red-light runners if an officer is present."
http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2010/...onal-aventura/

If you don't believe me, research it a little bit, and you will see it's happening as we speak. There are these camera all over parts of NJ, and in realty, if you don't pay them, they won't come after you. They cannot prove you were driving unless an actual "officer" has pulled you over, and can confirm your identity. Pictures are not conclusive in the courts, and cases have been thrown out as a result.

It all boils down to the govts hedging their bets that people will just send in the money, as that's all it's really being used for anyway. The speeding and timing thing will never fly.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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There is talk of issuing speeding tickets. If you go from point A to point B faster than expected.[/QUOTE]

They use to do that on a road out West.....back in the 70's.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:29 AM
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The story that I was told years ago is that in pre-radar days, speed timing was done by two patrol cars that would radio in when a specific car passed the first one and then calculate speed based on when the same car passed the second patrol car. Of course, people would see the first patrol car and slow down to drop their average speed before they got to the second patrol car so then they went to roadside cameras a couple hundred feet apart. The problem was that seeing that first camera would fluster some people so badly that they'd veer off the road and hit the second camera. Hard to calculate speed with only one camera.

Not saying it's true, just telling the story as I heard it.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 10:54 AM
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Here is Saskatchewan you can get a speeding ticket if you go from weigh station to weigh station with a calculated average speed over the limit.

Red light camera tickets go to the registered owner here, they don't care who was driving (they do include a picture of the driver though) but it doesn't matter the registered owner gets the ticket. You can goto court but the decision will be is that you are the owner and you are responsible for who drives your vehicle--- Pay the clerk. If you don't pay you can't renew your drivers license.

In some cities they have speed limits enforced by aircraft. White lines are measured along the road at certain intervals and if the aircraft observes you going from line A to Line B faster then you should, you get a ticket. The ticket comes in the mail with a picture of the plate and one of the vehicle. All with date, time and location stamps.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 12valve@heart
The story that I was told years ago is that in pre-radar days, speed timing was done by two patrol cars that would radio in when a specific car passed the first one and then calculate speed based on when the same car passed the second patrol car. Of course, people would see the first patrol car and slow down to drop their average speed before they got to the second patrol car so then they went to roadside cameras a couple hundred feet apart. The problem was that seeing that first camera would fluster some people so badly that they'd veer off the road and hit the second camera. Hard to calculate speed with only one camera.

Not saying it's true, just telling the story as I heard it.
They also used VASCAR. It was much faster than hand calculating and only required one person to operate. The primary problem was that if the officer hit the start button too late or the stop button too early VASCAR would calculate your speed at a higher value than you were actually going.
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