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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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Electrical Connector Question

Can someone tell me what this connector is called? I need to stack two of these together and put a big handle on it to create the necessary connector for my generator to plug it into the house. I was told I could find it at Grainger, but I have been searching and browsing through their web site and cannot find anything that look like it. I don't know what this connector is called so it hobbles my ability to search the Internet or any web site for it.

The image below was found on the AWDirect.com web site because I have seen this type of connector on jumper cables that tow trucks use, but I'm thinking they are smaller than what I need. Their site does not name the connector type though.




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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:27 PM
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Chris,

This is an Anderson Connector and is used on low voltage direct current only.

I think you are thinking about what is called a Paddle and is used primarily in the movie industry for lighting.

What are you truing to do?

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:31 PM
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That's what my generator has in it to connect if I want "full power", according to the manual. It has a 50 Amp dryer socket on it, but if I want full capacity of the generator I have to get a couple of those connectors and stack them, using only 3 of the conductors.
This is a Dayton 25/50Kw PTO generator.

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 04:41 PM
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Not sure how big those go 2/0 Im guessing

You might want to look at welding type connectors...
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Here's what it looks like inside my generator. I have never seen this type of connector used for a generator either, but it's factory.



I searched for Anderson connectors and found them. Thanks!


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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 05:22 PM
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ah....that helps.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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I've bought them at a welding shop.......Warn winches come with that setup.
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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 08:03 PM
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Apparently we have the same genset. Electric forklifts use them as well.

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:34 PM
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Now I see how they are being used, Do they use them to reconfigure the generator windings for either 120/240 or 240 only, or is the A/C current being carried though them?

The ones that I do not get for free I get them is from Fork Lift repair shops that specialize on electric lift trucks.

Off road shops want as much as $50.00 for each end,
I paid about $5.00 for each.

Also you need to know that one color will not fit into a different color, they are keyed differently for voltages.


Looks like Graingers has them.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/DAY...enerator-3W954

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Old Aug 26, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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It's a 240vac 4-wire arrangement (Two 110vac legs (L1 & L2), a neutral and ground).

The high amperage plugs discussed here allow one to connect directly to the alternator and glean full capacity (240vac @ 104 continuous FLA, 60hz, 200a surge).

Lacking that, you're stuck with the 50a circuit breaker limited "Clothes Drier" type receptacle on the other side. That mating plug is about as big as one can buy at Lowe's, Home Depot, etc. I haven't looked lately but IIRC, there's also a couple of 20a breaker limited 120vac receptacles as well.
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Old Aug 27, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Looks like the plug in for jumper cables on the front of many tow trucks.
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Old Aug 30, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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So, BC847, What can you tell me about wiring this thing up to my house?
The gen is a 25/50KW, mounted on a carry-all so I can connect it to the 3pt. The tractor is a Kubota with 39 hp, not the 45 the book says I need to run at full capacity, but I don't expect to pull more than 15K, max at my house, unless I decide to run both AC units, the dryer, stove, oven, and weld some 1/2" thick steel plate in one pass.
Once I track down those connectors, which are supposed to use 2/0 wire, I will need a switch. I'm thinking I will have to get a switch that is 200A, which is what the service is in the house, and 100, or more, for the generator side (it appears that they name the capacity of both sides on a manual transfer switch).
I found a couple of them:
http://www.electricgeneratorsdirect....5DR/p1125.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/200-amp...tch-42163.html This might be Harbor Freight, but it says the brand is Cutler-Hammer.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...6624_200196624

What I need to figure out is how big a switch do I need to go with to handle my load. I won't be welding and can leave oven off if drying clothes. I'd go with the 100a from Northern, but I can't tell if it will handle my 200A from the utility to my panel, when not running on gen. From what I can see on the Reliance web site, the 100a would be for a 100a service.

I am going to get an electrician involved with the wiring, but I am trying to get most of the leg work done before I bring him in.

I am also thinking of back-feeding this from my garage, so I can run the gen in the garage in bad weather. I have 2 "number 2's" on each leg out to the garage, but that would feed back into the 100a breaker in my panel. I may need to run a different set of wires to feed the gen to a transfer switch in the house. I don't know if I have that kind of room in my conduit for the garage wiring though.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

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Chris
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