Other Everything else not covered in the main topics goes here. Please avoid brand and flame wars. Don't try and up your post count. It won't work in here.

Educate me on growing Hay.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:08 PM
  #31  
Joe T's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 636
Likes: 1
From: Texas
You mean 50/50 cash split then I keep 1/3 of the hay for myself?

I'd need to keep my exemptions if I clear a good portion of land so I'll most likely be doing this. I've talked to one guy so far about actually cutting it and he said generally I'd have to put out on planting it... Does this sound normal and how costly is this... How many years would I have to commit if the cutter was to plant it, within reason?

Also in my soil I've found I will most likely want to use Bermuda.
Reply
Old Jun 17, 2007 | 11:57 PM
  #32  
clutch1's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 0
dont even worry about round baling it, especially in your area ,plant your bermuda, keep it weed free, fertilize it, and have someone cut and square bale it for horse quallity hay. have it sold in the field, plenty of small farms around looking for good clean hay.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 01:38 PM
  #33  
NEED_MORE_TORQU's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
What is the average price for a square bales? What is the average number per acre? How many times a year do you bale (bail?) hay?
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 01:46 PM
  #34  
Luke S's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,335
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NEED_MORE_TORQU
What is the average price for a square bales? What is the average number per acre? How many times a year do you bale (bail?) hay?
I sold some 50 lb bales last week for $5.00 a piece. That was not the norm, usually I get between $3.50 and $4.00. If conditions are perfect I can yield as many as 125-140 bales to the acre, but that does not always happen. In a normal year I get three cuttings, now the yields I gave you were for first cutting, after that they fall off.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:08 PM
  #35  
NEED_MORE_TORQU's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
From: Huntsville, AL
Originally Posted by Luke S
I sold some 50 lb bales last week for $5.00 a piece. That was not the norm, usually I get between $3.50 and $4.00. If conditions are perfect I can yield as many as 125-140 bales to the acre, but that does not always happen. In a normal year I get three cuttings, now the yields I gave you were for first cutting, after that they fall off.
Alright, so lets say you have ~120 acres of land. You don't want any hassle, you want to hire a professional that knows his stuff, get in, bail it, take his share, buy the rest from you, and get out. Do this 2-3 times a year. Is this how it works?
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:48 PM
  #36  
Luke S's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,335
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NEED_MORE_TORQU
Alright, so lets say you have ~120 acres of land. You don't want any hassle, you want to hire a professional that knows his stuff, get in, bail it, take his share, buy the rest from you, and get out. Do this 2-3 times a year. Is this how it works?
At least once a year. Depending on what kind of hay you are growing, what type of ground you are growing it on, and the weather, thats pretty much how it works.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 03:19 PM
  #37  
clutch1's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by NEED_MORE_TORQU
Alright, so lets say you have ~120 acres of land. You don't want any hassle, you want to hire a professional that knows his stuff, get in, bail it, take his share, buy the rest from you, and get out. Do this 2-3 times a year. Is this how it works?
on the first cutting it'll be cleaning the fields (weeds and winter grass), your hired baler wont want to jump on that hay unless he has cattle customers that need it, he might take the hay and sell what he can if it dosnt cover the cost to bale it then you'll owe him the rest and you sell the left over hay. on the second and third cuttings he might agree to bale it on 50-50% or 70-30% depending on the quality of the hay, and demand in your area.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 03:22 PM
  #38  
clutch1's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Luke S
I sold some 50 lb bales last week for $5.00 a piece. That was not the norm, usually I get between $3.50 and $4.00. If conditions are perfect I can yield as many as 125-140 bales to the acre, but that does not always happen. In a normal year I get three cuttings, now the yields I gave you were for first cutting, after that they fall off.
i think thats what it'll be this year around here for square bales. last year it was 3.50 in the field.
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:02 PM
  #39  
koogala's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Gonzales Co., Texas (HOOK'EM & Gig'em!)
#1...Don't EVEN begin thinking of buying the equip yourself for that 20 acres..
It would take forever if at all to pay for itself.

#2 See what the other guys around you plant for hay....Coastal Bermuda,Klein, & Haygrazer are all good choices in my area. Latest "Rage"
is Tifton 85...A very thick, coastal-like grass with much broader leaves...Can't
hardly walk thru a good stand.

#3 Prices will be down CONSIDERABLY from last year because there has been
good rain everywhere that I know of in Texas....Lots of supply...

#4 If you can't get started or don't get good ideas from your nieghbors or
here, contact your county extension agent. He will put you on right track.
If you're near Crockett (Houston County) its the 2nd leading beef cattle
county in Texas. Somebody there will definately know how to put you on
track....Good Luck!
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:08 PM
  #40  
koogala's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Gonzales Co., Texas (HOOK'EM & Gig'em!)
#1...Don't EVEN begin thinking of buying the equip yourself for that 20 acres..
It would take forever if at all to pay for itself.

#2 See what the other guys around you plant for hay....Coastal Bermuda,Klein, & Haygrazer are all good choices in my area. Latest "Rage"
is Tifton 85...A very thick, coastal-like grass with much broader leaves...Can't
hardly walk thru a good stand.

#3 Prices will be down CONSIDERABLY from last year because there has been
good rain everywhere that I know of in Texas....Lots of supply...

#4 If you can't get started or don't get good ideas from your nieghbors or
here, contact your county extension agent. He will put you on right track.
If you're near Crockett (Houston County) its the 2nd leading beef cattle
county in Texas. Somebody there will definately know how to put you on
track....Good Luck!
Reply
Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:22 PM
  #41  
Joe T's Avatar
Thread Starter
Banned
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 636
Likes: 1
From: Texas
I'm about an hour and a half away from Crockett.
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:05 PM
  #42  
koogala's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 312
Likes: 0
From: Gonzales Co., Texas (HOOK'EM & Gig'em!)
Originally Posted by Joe T
I'm about an hour and a half away from Crockett.
That Trinity River area in Houston County is some great looking cow country.

I don't go up that way much but every time I have I am impressed....& NO
MESQUITE!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Shovelhead
Suggestions, Comments and Site Questions
7
Aug 13, 2006 10:35 AM
99 cummins
Suggestions, Comments and Site Questions
35
Mar 29, 2006 01:57 PM
Strjock81
3rd Gen High Performance and Accessories (5.9L Only)
9
Sep 23, 2004 01:53 PM
Jack Thorpe
Other
36
Jul 26, 2003 01:07 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:16 PM.