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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 04:59 PM
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You're catchin' on to this sarcasm thing!



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Caught on to that a while ago. I thought that was a pre-requisite to being in the breakroom!


Originally Posted by lil dennis
sarsarcasm whats that?
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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa

So perma-frost doesn't go that deep? Somehow I had it in my mind that it was 50 feet deep.

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I live in a very well drained area, very sandy soil with glacier till for sub base material, in fact this material is perfect for backfill with a proctor of around 147.0. But yes PF can go very deep and is a big pain to dig thru, it’s as hard as concrete. I had a crew I was watching last summer they had to dig a trench thru this area that had been hydro axed and was frozen for hundreds of years if not thousands. It took them 10 hours a day for a week with a backhoe and frost bucket to dig 200 feet, 6 foot deep.
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AkTallPaul
I live in a very well drained area, very sandy soil with glacier till for sub base material, in fact this material is perfect for backfill with a proctor of around 147.0. But yes PF can go very deep and is a big pain to dig thru, it’s as hard as concrete. I had a crew I was watching last summer they had to dig a trench thru this area that had been hydro axed and was frozen for hundreds of years if not thousands. It took them 10 hours a day for a week with a backhoe and frost bucket to dig 200 feet, 6 foot deep.
That's pretty interesting stuff Paul, thanks! I'd like to see that tho, 'just because'. But if I were the operator of the backhoe I think I'd have been bored after the first couple of feet! Does the perma-frost get deeper with every year or does it reach a maximum depth at some point?

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue3quarter
Caught on to that a while ago. I thought that was a pre-requisite to being in the breakroom!




Sounds like someone needs to enrole into Chaikwa's Sarcastic Apprenticeship
wheres the form? sign me up
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
That's pretty interesting stuff Paul, thanks! I'd like to see that tho, 'just because'. But if I were the operator of the backhoe I think I'd have been bored after the first couple of feet! Does the perma-frost get deeper with every year or does it reach a maximum depth at some point?

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It will cotinue to go deeper but that takes many thousand years. wiki has
some good info Here. Page down to
"Time to form deep permafrost"

Time taken for permafrost to reach depth Permafrost
Time (yr) Depth (m)

1 4.44 (0.002759 mi.)
350 79.9 (0.049648 mi.)
3,500 219.3
3,5000 461.4
100,000 567.8
225,000 626.5
775,000 687.7
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AkTallPaul
wiki has some good info Here.
"In areas of continuous permafrost and harsh winters the depth of the permafrost can be as much as 1,493 m (4,900 ft) in the northern Lena and Yana River basins in Siberia."



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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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"In areas of continuous permafrost and harsh winters the depth of the permafrost can be as much as 1,493 m (4,900 ft) in the northern Lena and Yana River basins in Siberia."



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so if we use the above formula that makes for about 1,500,000 years of cold.
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:52 PM
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well I gotta get to town...major outage here....I'm out of milk and ice cream, can't eat supper with out milk and Jake and I have to have ice cream before bed.
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AkTallPaul
so if we use the above formula that makes for about 1,500,000 years of cold.
That's almost as old as T-rad!



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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AkTallPaul
well I gotta get to town...major outage here....I'm out of milk and ice cream, can't eat supper with out milk and Jake and I have to have ice cream before bed.
Same here. No ice cream = no sleep!

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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i thought you sleept with teddy bear
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by lil dennis
i thought you sleept with teddy bear
Nope. Jake. Jake the wonder dawg.

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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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i thought you sleept with teddy bear
No, he sleeps like a Janitor. In the closet on the hammock, and don't wake him up if he's sleeping or there will be alot of hades to pay!
Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue3quarter
... don't wake him up if he's sleeping...
Is that as opposed to waking me up when I'm awake?



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Old Dec 7, 2009 | 06:35 PM
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Is that as opposed to waking me up when I'm awake?



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