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Deputy Shot USAF MP - Bad Shoot??

Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
the teen who was killed had been in trouble with the law for marijuana possestion--DUI --- over the past few years.
At our last city board meeting this officer was allowed to "resign" instead of being fired. This gives him the opprotunity to be a cop in another community, hope it's not yours
Why would you hope it wasn't my community he transferred to?

This officer obviously would like to see our streets clean (no controlled substances) and safe (no DUI's)!


I would agree with you that the comment he made was not a good one in the presence of the deceased's father, but he had a point. How many DUI's would that kid have racked up before he killed someone else? The kid made a grave mistake and paid for it with his life. You didn't mention whether or not the teenager who died was under the influence of drugs or alcohol at the time..... I would suspect he may have been.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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I agree...police make off color and otherwise unsavory jokes and comments all of the time. It's a way to deal with the overwhelming stress and depressing nature of the job. At worst the situation was caused by a lack of tact and at best it was simply an accident. Either way maybe the father should devote his energies to keeping the rest of his kids (if he has any) from driving drunk and killing themselves or others rather than trying to beat up cops.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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I didn't realize that the police were also Judges I thought they were to serve and protect.

i was in no way trying to justify the lifestyle of the teen who was killed and there has been nothing said about the kids being under the influence when the accident accerd
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
we had a car with 4 teens wrecked locally a few weeks ago, the driver was killed.
the teen who was killed had been in trouble with the law for marijuana possestion--DUI --- over the past few years.
His father, a former policeman, came to the accident where our local police and amulance were already at.
Upon his arrival while walking towards the wrecked car he overheard our local police officer say to someone " no big deal, he was trash anyhow" , fortunatley there were people present who were able to "hold" this boy's father back from attacking this cop.
At our last city board meeting this officer was allowed to "resign" instead of being fired. This gives him the opprotunity to be a cop in another community, hope it's not yours

So you don't want him as a LEO because he forms an opinion about someone based on facts. A persons actions reveal a persons heart. Maybe if the father had not been so busy protecting his son and instead CORRECTING this would not have happened.

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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by newriverSpecon
So you don't want him as a LEO because he forms an opinion about someone based on facts. A persons actions reveal a persons heart. Maybe if the father had not been so busy protecting his son and instead CORRECTING this would not have happened.

Randy

Most people raising children have children who make mistakes even tho they are taught --influenced not to do the things they get in trouble for.
I, of course, cannot remember EVER doing anything my dad told me not to do,but if I had he would proably have forgiven me . And I am sure that if i had done something he had not wanted me to do it would not have revealed me as having a bad heart, perhaps human and prone to making mistakes.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
Most people raising children have children who make mistakes even tho they are taught --influenced not to do the things they get in trouble for.
I, of course, cannot remember EVER doing anything my dad told me not to do,but if I had he would proably have forgiven me . And I am sure that if i had done something he had not wanted me to do it would not have revealed me as having a bad heart, perhaps human and prone to making mistakes.
There is a difference between forgiving someone for mistakes and wanting someone fired for stating the truth based on someones repeated behavior. There are probably a lot of people that have killed people while DD, one times anger, or hunting accidents that have to deal with the result even though they might be a "good" person. It doesn't change what you call them (muderer, drunk, fools, ect..).

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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by newriverSpecon
There is a difference between forgiving someone for mistakes and wanting someone fired for stating the truth based on someones repeated behavior. There are probably a lot of people that have killed people while DD, one times anger, or hunting accidents that have to deal with the result even though they might be a "good" person. It doesn't change what you call them (muderer, drunk, fools, ect..).

Randy
We hired him to protect and serve Not to judge. We have 3 Judges in the county we hire for that.
Just seems like it is a "cold hearted human being" who would pass judgement on a fellow human being who is still stuck behind the steering wheel. warm and dead as "trash"
My God say's to love thy brother, nothing about loving just the ones we deem "up to our standards"
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
My God say's to love thy brother, nothing about loving just the ones we deem "up to our standards"

Do you invite ladies of the night, known theifs, murderers (whom are non-repentant) in to your house? Do you take any steps to protect your family? Isn't that saying that someone (even if not specific) doesn't live to your standard? That TYPE of love does not inhibit ones ability(responsibility) to make rational decision about others. Yes maybe it is a little cold to make the statment you refered to, but that does not bother me. I can't get angry about truth. No matter how painful it might be.

Why would you want someone to be fired based on their ability(audacity in your opinion??) to speak the truth. If more people would do that we would be much better off.

Hi-jack over!

Randy
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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Looks like they are going to charge the deputy with attempted voluntary manslaughter

Click Here for CNN news link

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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why is the title of the article on CNN "Video shows deputy wounding Iraq war vet"? how come its important to know the person who was shot was an Irag war vet? its as though they are giving the implication the deputy shot BECAUSE the victim was a vet...i dont believe they are as its proabably more of a read-this-headline-and-buy-this-paper type strategy but still BS.

also, being i never had a gun drawn on me, i would say the adrenaline of one who has a gun drawn on them would take over and make them stop thinking clearly and make a dumb manuever that would imply they were reaching for a weapon of some sort and therefore causing an officer to react.

***EDIT: i dont want this to imply an opinion of mine as to who was right or wrong as i dont have an opinion on it.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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This cop was wrong period. in fact it appears that he has had some problems in the past with use of "excessive" force.
This one was to public to get swept under the rug . If it had been the victim who shot the cop he would have been charged with attempted murder not attemped manslaughter.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hotdram
Looks like they are going to charge the deputy with attempted voluntary manslaughter

~Rob
Hope the Stupid guy gets the FULL Penalty off the Law.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:49 PM
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The problem started with the Father to begin with, kill him too. Obivously all his children are * the only consistant thing is the father.

Do the country a favor, kill em all.
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