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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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Question Computer hard drives

Can anyone tell me if in the same pc one can have both a RAID array and an IDE drive or not. Naturaly on diferent controlers.

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Servers can have both IDE and RAID controllers. The IDE is for the CD-ROM. I assume you're talking about having HDD's for both. I never tried it in that configuration.

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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Yah.. you can have a raid array and ide drives in the same box. Assuming your motherboard BIOS and OS recognizes your hardware (controller and HDD) and you have enough power to spin all the drives.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Oh yea I do have the power, 850W supply, I want to set up a SATA RAID 0 for the speed of it, and I also have two old 350 gig IDE hard drives that I would like to store the "old" stuff on. The question is how do I make / find out if the bios and mobo support it that way?

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyB
Servers can have both IDE and RAID controllers. The IDE is for the CD-ROM. I assume you're talking about having HDD's for both. I never tried it in that configuration.

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Yea, hard drives for both, the DVD/CD cooker is also SATA and on a PC not server.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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Which system do you have?

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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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If I get your question, why not just buy a Serial ATA controller card and use both SATA and IDE? I did it the first time because the old computer's bios wouldn't support large drives and I wanted a large drive (160 was big a long time ago...). This card and drive are running on my other machine right now.

I have to install the controller drivers for it from a floppy (believe it or not - won't work off a CD rom); which is a pain these days because most newer computers don't have floppy drives.

As far as speeds go, the newer IDE HD's are plenty fast, or faster and most folks wouldn't notice it.

Edit: If you are unsure what your bios capabilities are, you can usually go to the MOBO's site and look up the bios page and review the upgrades.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 08:14 PM
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Yea, i know that I will probably not notice the speed diferences, it is just that I "want" to build a new machine form the ground up and SATA is the new hot buz word and I just want to see it in action.
My intentions are an Asus board, Athlon dual core CPU, 3 Raptor 36 Gig HD in a RAID 0 formation, run by a XFX SATA controller. But since I have the large IDE drives I really would like to put them in also. All in a Thermaltake aluminium box.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Have you thought about going to 64 bit OS? That'll be my next project.
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Old Jan 22, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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I run a RAID-0 (4x HDDs) in addition to an IDE "Archive" HDD. The CD/DVD stuff is IDE as well.

Works great!

You may find that while setting the RAID array as the OS boot disk on creation, you'll still have to set the C HDD as the first boot, with the RAID 2nd in the BIOS system boot sequence. I'm not sure about some of the newer MOBO's.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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It will work if your MoBo or your controller is bootable- I've built nearly identical configurations under Gentoo Linux. 25MB Boot partition on the IDE drive, Root on the SATA-Raid including /home for network sharing across 3 dedicated Gigabit adapters, 3 IDE HDDs mounted under /backup0 to /backup2 to do on the fly backups of user data wile running- hotplug for the IDE devices on a Promise controller. Nice little fileserver.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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If you're looking at getting three new Raptors, why not make it four and go Raid 0+1, go for a Koolance case, and a 64 bit system

Is this just a personal pc, gamer, server?
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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Actualy I'd like to make a RAID 3 with five 76 Gig raptors but I just do not have the $$$ now. I picked the Thermaltake case because I liked it more it is a very nice and roomy alum. case with 7 fans. It will be a 64 bit system, I am just not sure which OS I am going to use. I do not know anything about Win x64. I'll just take it one step at a time. It is a personal PC, I do not play games at all, it is more that anyhing a "see if I can do it" project. If ti turns out real nice, I know a serious gamer who may want to buy it. Time will tell.
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