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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 05:34 PM
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Cell phone/tower question

I do work at an outdoor farm show every fall. Usually a week of setup and a 3 day show. Durring the setup week my cell phone (Verizion) seems to get less responsive as more people get there. Usually the day before the show US celluar sets up and starts a cell tower on wheels. At that point my air card is worthless and my phone is dismal at best. Sometimes a couple hours after the show closes in the evenings my phone and card will act normal.

My Question is....Is there a way that US celluar can suck the life out of other carriers phones?

It is not just a Verizion thing as other people on other carriers noticed this also. A friend of mine on US celluar loves it as his phone works great thru this time.

Why???

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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 06:29 PM
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I think you don't have much signal, and as the other phones and portable tower show up, there are so many different signals bouncing around that your phone and the tower have trouble deciphering them all.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 06:34 PM
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Wear an aluminum hat with an antenna and try again.....

Just kidding. I think increased cellular traffic leads to too many signals and the tower can only handle so much at a time. If in an under populated area it probably isn't a priority tower and has a lower volume it can handle.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Its all RF the strongest signal over rides the weaker ones, low battery with all that RF will not help also, if your cell is looking for a signal all the time it will run the battery down pretty quick.
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Old Jun 4, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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get a smooth talker and boost your signal if you can stay near your rig.

Otherwise, like 50grit said, its all RF and cross talk.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 06:26 PM
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Is there some kind of rf signal emited from the US celluar tower that washes out the others? the crowd dosent just appear on that Monday afternoon at the same time that my phone fades and the same time US goes on line.

Why does a US celluar phone get better when my Verizion fades?

Suposedly Verizion has a permanent tower a short distance from the show grounds.

Anyone have a pattern for an aluminum hat that is "stylish"
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:41 PM
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they all use the same frequency. your phone identifies itself to the tower. If they are different companies and dont have a share agreement in place. then the tower declines access by your phone and your phone has to find another tower to talk to. Your phone is now trying to talk over the loud close tower to a quiet one further away.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:50 PM
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Fronty, engineer to the STARS!!!!

we really should put you on a DTR thread" ASK FRONTY" like the discovery channel, ect....

nailed responses so many times...thank you thank you if no one has..drink of choice to your name!
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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I am in the business and maybe I can shed some light on the issue.

All cell phone companies use the same RF signal.

Incorrect, Cell phone companies are licensed from the FCC for the frequencies that they own. They are not the same in the same BTA or RSA.

Cellular A, A', A", Cellular B, B'; PCS A, B, C, D, E freqs; AWS freqs A, B, C, D, E, F; 700mhz freqs (Don't know those bands off the top of my head).


Verizon uses CDMA and LTE. More than likely they only have CDMA in your area. CDMA or UMTS will have Cell breathing. What that means is the higher number of users at the special event will make the coverage area of that cell shrink. On these networks Capacity and coverage don't go hand in hand. So depending on how the network is designed in that area you may be setup for high coverage and low capacity or it could be built for moderate coverage and moderate capacity. When the capacity threshold is meet by either downlink power limitations or uplink noise limitations the cell coverage will shrink. This is done automatically via parameters setup in the RNC or Switch (basically the controller of the cells). So, when these thresholds are meet, the site will start to not allow users to get on the cell in idle mode, hence no coverage, in the far field (folks farther away from the cell) If the capacity issues get real bad it will start to reject calls.

My suggestion to you would be to complain to Verizon about the event. See if they will roll in a COW (Cellsite on Wheels) or COLT ( Cellsite on Light truck) and support the event. I am sure they can see the issues in the statistics after the event. Hope this helps.
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