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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
. . . . amateurs . . . .

Here's most of my heap.

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Oh, I got the pocket protector for all my pens and stuff to.
Nice case.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Good choice of motherboards. Intel's are the best in the business. With a 3 year guaranteed 48 hr replacement, nothing else even comes close. They are reliable.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Lane
Well I must have gotten bored yesterday because I went out last night and got parts and built myself a new computer. I really needed a new one because my old one is about 6 months old now and old technology.
I got me the new Intel D955XBK Extreme Series motherboard for a good price,

http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-020738.htm

And since I had a 3.8 GHz CPU already,
I got a new 3.6 GHz. CPU to put in my old computer that will now become my new DVR server.
I have:
4 GB DDR2 ram,
2, 400 Gb Seagate SATA hard drives, (partitioned into 100 Gb segments)
1, 200 Gb Seagate SATA "C" drive for only the OS and program files,
ATI all in wonder X600 PRO video,
8-channel audio is onboard,
Sony DVD/RW,
Teac dual layer DVD/RW,
650-watt power supply, this CPU/ board combo can draw up to 8 amperes.
I flushed my radiator, replaced the coolant and transferred my "modded" Hydro cool liquid cooling to this new computer.
I have not done it yet but I still need to install the raid controller and drive array to this system.
New system and previous one are powered from a 4kw 48 volt Fortress UPS.
Jim

Ok so I am a geek..
Isn't the raid controller used to duplicate entries onto a second hardrive, or do i have it mixed up with something else ?
Seems a while back I was going to use it and was advised against it because i was told if you picked up a visus on your C drive it would automatically be transfered onto you spare drive(s)
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by herb
Isn't the raid controller used to duplicate entries onto a second hardrive, or do i have it mixed up with something else ?
Seems a while back I was going to use it and was advised against it because i was told if you picked up a visus on your C drive it would automatically be transfered onto you spare drive(s)
RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disc's) can be set up in a number of different ways, for different purposes.

RAID-1 allows one to mirror a HDD so as to protect the data should one of the two fail. The computer only see one of the two combined so to speak. Comes in really handy with mission critical matters. There are more complex methods of mirroring using more than two HDDs.

RAID-0 allows the data to be Stripped across two or more HDD's so that in theory, one can double the data transfer speeds. Again, in theory, the data transfer rate is effectively doubled (to a point) with the increasing number of HDDs added, but with diminishing returns the higher you go.

The down side with this method is that with the increasing number of HDDs, the risk of the arrays failure goes up incrementally. Bummer.

The two can typically be combined to gain the benefits of both (pending the RAID controllers capabilities), with still more complex (and expensive) methods of increasing speed and security.

Level 0 -- Striped Disk Array without Fault Tolerance: Provides data striping (spreading out blocks of each file across multiple disk drives) but no redundancy. This improves performance but does not deliver fault tolerance. If one drive fails then all data in the array is lost.
Level 1 -- Mirroring and Duplexing: Provides disk mirroring. Level 1 provides twice the read transaction rate of single disks and the same write transaction rate as single disks.
Level 2 -- Error-Correcting Coding: Not a typical implementation and rarely used, Level 2 stripes data at the bit level rather than the block level.
Level 3 -- Bit-Interleaved Parity: Provides byte-level striping with a dedicated parity disk. Level 3, which cannot service simultaneous multiple requests, also is rarely used.
Level 4 -- Dedicated Parity Drive: A commonly used implementation of RAID, Level 4 provides block-level striping (like Level 0) with a parity disk. If a data disk fails, the parity data is used to create a replacement disk. A disadvantage to Level 4 is that the parity disk can create write bottlenecks.
Level 5 -- Block Interleaved Distributed Parity: Provides data striping at the byte level and also stripe error correction information. This results in excellent performance and good fault tolerance. Level 5 is one of the most popular implementations of RAID.
Level 6 -- Independent Data Disks with Double Parity: Provides block-level striping with parity data distributed across all disks.
Level 0+1 – A Mirror of Stripes: Not one of the original RAID levels, two RAID 0 stripes are created, and a RAID 1 mirror is created over them. Used for both replicating and sharing data among disks.
Level 10 – A Stripe of Mirrors: Not one of the original RAID levels, multiple RAID 1 mirrors are created, and a RAID 0 stripe is created over these.
Level 7: A trademark of Storage Computer Corporation that adds caching to Levels 3 or 4.
RAID S: EMC Corporation's proprietary striped parity RAID system used in its Symmetrix storage systems.
Hope this helps.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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I have some images of mine waiting my gallery. The pics were taken at a local lan party
I took an old cd server case and mounted a PS1 and a dreamcast to the roof of the case and have my computer on the base running thourgh the tv caputer card. I have three monitors hooked up with two video cards and my tv hooked up as well. I am going to hook my dish network to my computer soon as well

My truck is setup with wi-fi antennas and an inverter for a laptop when i am out and about.

I am in college for computer networking.

I think i qualify as geek.


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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
. . . . amateurs . . . .

Here's most of my heap.

15 rigs shown here with 4 others rigs elsewhere in the house. A little over 35GHz in CPU power. Most are Headless/Dedicated, but all run Folding@Home (link). It's a distributed computing program, developed at Stanford University for the purpose of simulating how the proteins of our bodies develop, or Fold. When these proteins mis-fold (or mutate), diseases such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many cancers and cancer-related syndromes arise.

It is our hope that, with this program, we can potentially develop a better understanding, and perhaps come up with means of prevention, if not cures.

Anybody can do it, it's designed to run in the background so as not to interfere with what you do. It uses the spare CPU cycles. It's kinda like you driving your truck at 55mph, and program uses the left over 65mph (on your speedometer).
Stanford has assigned a points system that allows 100's of thousands of folks worldwide to participate, come up with teams, and compete with one another.

Folding For Our Future (link) Music by Jewel

Perhaps we should make a team for this website. We could compete with those other truck people. . . . . . but then, it's not nice to add insult to injury, what with them driving those other trucks and all.



Oh, I got the pocket protector for all my pens and stuff to.
How do you take care of grounding on those boards? Now adays almost every mount point on a motherboard has a metal ring around it for grounding, and the machines can act pretty flaky if theres just ONE missing. Ive had machines where the power on is delayed, shutdown instead of restart, vice versa, random video lockups, instant power on and off when you push the button, etc.

Unless theres a motherboard tray under there that i dont see.??

either way alot of good power there

My personal machine is a celeron 2.6 clocked at 3.7, 1.5gb ram, wd sata 3g 160gb hd, and a x700pro video.. on a Asus P5ND2-SLI Deluxe motherboard. Should hold me over until the new dual cores, Vista, and Nvidias next card is released.

Haloman, Id love to see the wifi antennaes you went with. I was thinking of some nice ones but the only high powered ones are mostly all directional (30db gain panels).
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bart Timothy
Good choice of motherboards. Intel's are the best in the business. With a 3 year guaranteed 48 hr replacement, nothing else even comes close. They are reliable.
Indeed. Not much along the way of an performance board though due to the lack of options- but given that, they are excellent for resale/endusers because theres not many settings they can go fiddle with!
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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The magnet mount i use is this one: It gives me about 10 db
http://cgi.ebay.com/WiFi-7-dB-Magnet...QQcmdZViewItem

Item number:5819230720

I also use a coffee can antenna similar to this one:
http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/an...coffeecan.html

It gives me a 15 db gain

I only use these for testing purposes.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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Of course.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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shoot the local compusa sells cantennas. has the cantenna logo instead of pringles..... again for testing purposes..........
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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I made a pringles can antenna first because it was the cool thing to do but it really was a bad antenna compared to coffee can antenna.
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
. . . . amateurs . . . .

Here's most of my heap.




15 rigs shown here with 4 others rigs elsewhere in the house. A little over 35GHz in CPU power. Most are Headless/Dedicated, but all run Folding@Home (link). It's a distributed computing program, developed at Stanford University for the purpose of simulating how the proteins of our bodies develop, or Fold. When these proteins mis-fold (or mutate), diseases such as Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many cancers and cancer-related syndromes arise.

It is our hope that, with this program, we can potentially develop a better understanding, and perhaps come up with means of prevention, if not cures.

Anybody can do it, it's designed to run in the background so as not to interfere with what you do. It uses the spare CPU cycles. It's kinda like you driving your truck at 55mph, and program uses the left over 65mph (on your speedometer).
Stanford has assigned a points system that allows 100's of thousands of folks worldwide to participate, come up with teams, and compete with one another.

Folding For Our Future (link) Music by Jewel

Perhaps we should make a team for this website. We could compete with those other truck people. . . . . . but then, it's not nice to add insult to injury, what with them driving those other trucks and all.



Oh, I got the pocket protector for all my pens and stuff to.
Nice setup..
It looks like the same idea that I am running on one of my older 3.0 Ghz machines when it is idle except I am looking for radio signals.
Jim
http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=178025
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Evil
650 Watt PS @ 8 amps....good Lord that draws as much juice as the Cummins block heater !

I like the way you do things Jim.....overkill is good. I remember the pics of your genset...

definite Geek....
Well thank you Dr.Evil..
Yes I always like to over build everything I do, I am thinking about setting up about 600 watts of photo voltaic to charge a battery bank so I can take some load off of the grid because our Edison bill as around $250.00 month.
Yup I must be a geek because I always have at least 1 computer I am repairing that belongs to someone else.
Jim
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Bart Timothy
Good choice of motherboards. Intel's are the best in the business. With a 3 year guaranteed 48 hr replacement, nothing else even comes close. They are reliable.
I learned long ago to always get the best first or at least get the high end products and you cannot go wrong. There has to be a difference between a $250.00 motherboard and one that goes for $59.00, it only makes since.
I get most of my parts from Fry's Electronics in Industry Ca.
I know they are higher priced than mail order but I have had bad experiences with the mail order stuff. I always get an extended warranty on the boards CPU, hard drives and memory because it is an instant exchange for the life of the warranty and I always trade up.
Right now at home I have 5 desktop computers and 1 Fujitsu wide screen laptop on my network. I have my new computer and the server share a Sony 20" LCD monitor through a KVM.
The 2 surveillance system DVR server both share a LCD monitor through a KVM on the same desk. I built a 3.0 Ghz computer for my daughter for her games that is also on the network.
The surveillance DVR is a 16-channel 480 fps system and will record for 1 month before it rewrites.
It watches the property through 8 day/night cameras and is supplemented with infrared illuminators so it can see in total darkness.
The house is wired for Ethernet with an access point for my laptop if I want to go wireless.
Oh I also have a HP Ipaq 4705 I take in my truck.
Jim
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Old Nov 5, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BC847
RAID (Redundant Array of Independent Disc's) can be set up in a number of different ways, for different purposes.

RAID-1 allows one to mirror a HDD so as to protect the data should one of the two fail. The computer only see one of the two combined so to speak. Comes in really handy with mission critical matters. There are more complex methods of mirroring using more than two HDDs.

RAID-0 allows the data to be Stripped across two or more HDD's so that in theory, one can double the data transfer speeds. Again, in theory, the data transfer rate is effectively doubled (to a point) with the increasing number of HDDs added, but with diminishing returns the higher you go.

The down side with this method is that with the increasing number of HDDs, the risk of the arrays failure goes up incrementally. Bummer.

The two can typically be combined to gain the benefits of both (pending the RAID controllers capabilities), with still more complex (and expensive) methods of increasing speed and security.



Hope this helps.
Most machines, I build, use mirrored, hot-swap, hard drives. This has saved many a customer's fanny, more times than I can remember. I work with SCADA systems, which can sometimes be located in harsh enviroments and reliability is a must.

Cool setup, BC847. You do qualify as a genuine geek. Are all those machines linked together in a LAN? What are you using for KVM? That's a very interesting setup.
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