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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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2003(ish) SVT cobra vs 94 2500 2wd......

Well I had an interesting day yesterday. I was making a left turn from a light that is two turn lanes, I was on the outside of an SVT Cobra. I took off and was nice to it through the turn but as soon as I started to straighten out I laid into it. Now it's a pretty decent hill after this turn and I was in third getting ready to flick in lock-up when I see the 'stang trying to run me down. So I decided to see if my truck had enough edit to take on a 'stang that had a run on me while going uphill... Flicked in lockup, nailed it, waited half a second and flicked in OD and bye-bye cobra. Got caught up and stuck in my lane later on in town and he decided to pull up next to me and hang there a bit. As soon as there was more than enough room from his side for even me to comfortably thread the needle he jams the throttle and goes about threading the needle with very sudden and jerky moves on the steering wheel. Quite frankly I was worried he was gonna loose it and hurt someone; his car was being pitched that bad. I slowly pulled over into the hole he left me and followed through the place where he threaded the needle. Got up by him and pulled ahead some more, about that time I was under my favorite overpass (gives a good echo) so I laid into her pretty good and let him know that my truck wasn't exactly stock (i shouldn't have though cause I don't like public smoke displays on the road).

Then later after a skiff of snow, same end of town stopped at one of the many stoplights an Expedition with the limited edition 5.0 pulls up. I did another oblivious take off as the roads were more than slick enough to give me traction issues (even if I'm not intending to race I still usually get on it pretty hard at stop lights). Well I guess he thought we were racing because he kept neck and neck on the take-off then started pulling ahead (I could hear he had his foot in it pretty good). So since I figured I had a good enough bite at about 20mph I nailed it again to see if I could repeat my earlier experience. Broke em loose and kept playing the hook-up game all the way to OD. All the while I was putting truck lengths between me and him... He tried following me home, now I don't know why but a lot of people try following me home after I lay it to them. They must be curious to see what I have done to it (even though it isn't much)
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Sorry man but the 03 and up cobra is supercharged, weighs 3000lbs, and has 390hp and like 400tq. Not only does it weigh half the amount of truck but probably has close to the same amount power. Either he wasn't floored, or it wasn't a real cobra.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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Sorry man but the 03 and up cobra is supercharged, weighs 3000lbs, and has 390hp and like 400tq. Not only does it weigh half the amount of truck but probably has close to the same amount power. Either he wasn't floored, or it wasn't a real cobra.
Have you read the mods in his sig? The man's truck isn't exactly stock.

If the Cobra was an auto then he would easily kill it. If he says it was a manual and he beat it, I would still believe him.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:45 PM
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The 03 cobra is a mid 12sec car all day every day. I have a buddy with a 94 reg cab long bed 2wd with a billet DTT, twins, 370's, #4 plate, 3k gsk that could put a hurting on one of those cars. Yall gotta remember that his truck weighs nothing. Also, a non convertible 03 cobra will click in at around 3700lbs. They are incredibly heavy cars (iron block, IRS, etc) so that doesn't help much. Not to mention that the truck is making gobs more torque than the cobra and going up hill it doesn't surprise me the truck pulled thanks to the torque. Also, all cobras are sticks and the 03's are 6spds IIRC.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 01:55 PM
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i believe him 100000000000000000000000%. this is starting to look like my thread.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jrussell
Have you read the mods in his sig? The man's truck isn't exactly stock.

If the Cobra was an auto then he would easily kill it. If he says it was a manual and he beat it, I would still believe him.
Yeah I did read his sig...did you?

Originally Posted by ckt_santiago
94' Red 2500 2wd, custom tweaked pump, #100 plate, running LSD(still), 3.54 rears and a 47RH Full trans rebuild (w/borg warner friction discs), trango shift kit, Goerend Lifetime waranteed tripple lock billet converter. Parts sittin in shop: guages... Parts within next month: gooseneck plate and posi. Future plans: 370 Marine nozzles, 191 DV's, Ag governor, ATS three piece manifold, HX40 w/12cm wg housing, divorced transfer case, any driver's side dif front end
I'm guessing he still has 131 dv's and 160hp injectors since under future mods he plans to upgrade them, #100 plate, 3.54s, trans rebuild with a shift kit and a Goerend tc. Like BB says, his friend w/billet DTT, twins, 370's etc will beat it and I can see that. But I have a really, really hard time believeing a 160 pump with a #100 plate, stock turbo, and mild tranny rebuild would, which makes me think maybe the cobra wasn't full throttle. And if you don't agree with me you've probably never driven and 03+ cobra, they're not exactly slow
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Never driven one but I've played with them. They are quick but they ain't fast.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Maybe the coupe weighs in at 3700 with driver. Stock '03/'04 Cobra has iron block and supercharger. I have a '99 with aluminum block that is N/A. Basically stock, and goes 13.7 down the 1320 as advertised.
With today's diesel performance, it's hard to say without witnessing it. Maybe he had the hole shot with snow on the ground. Then one has to ask himself....Self....
"What the heck am I dorking around with a Cobra for?"

I noticed the future mods of 370 injectors. I forget what the early trucks have for line nuts, but the M3 injectors had big nuts. If you needed lines, then you are better off buying the set, rather than piecing them out. For some reason the set is cheaper than individual.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Sorry, but I have been around way too many mild to wild Cobras to think this was a straight up race. Bone stock Cobras are mid 12s @ 113+. Add a pulley, CAI, and tune, and they are high 11s at 120+mph.
From a roll, your dead.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:48 PM
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i beg to differ. on the street traction is everything. i have a nother thread going on about how i raced a whipple charged new GTO and an 03 cobra with the smaller pully, programmer, and exhaust and i worked both of them in a 1/4 race on the street. they guy in the cobra said he had never seen a truck as fast as mine and his buddy has a video that i am trying to get ahold of, of us racing and me spanking him. you got a 11 sec car and if he spins at all off the line then it turns into a high 12 to 13 sec street car. like i keep pointing out, anything is possible on the STREET as where TRACTION usally wins.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:07 PM
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i have a buddy with a 03 cobra and another with a 06 4X4 powerjoke with banks six gun and 37 inch procomps. the powerjoke boosted to about 20psi and pulled about 4 car lengths on the cobra off the line
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Well I wish I had video of it, but it was a rolling start on a hill... He was already a few car lengths behind me and when I happened to look back before throwing in the lock-up he was gaining on me and fast. So I threw it down as stated and proceeded to leave him in the dust. Now I'm sure that his car can easily beat mine had he been racing me off the line on the level. I figured that the grade helped me imensly... Torque rules the slopes its a given. He was pretty upset that he obviously didn't drive his car to it's potential (he did give me a one finger salute and cut me off). I would only assume that he has no idea about driving a fast car just by the way that he proceeded to thread the needle in such a manner that I was worried he was going to lose control.

BTW I had my fiancé and a buddy in my truck when I did this so I do have two other witnesses.

Now just to clear things up I realize that I raced someone who more than likely did NOT know how to drive his car. So I am NOT saying that I would even hold a shadow to a properly driven SVT cobra without further modifications. The limited edition 5.0 Expedition on the other hand I believe I took fair and square.

EDIT: Oh and I'm not sure that is was even as new as 2003... It was newer though, but not the new retro body style.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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So it could have been a 99 or 01 Cobra. Those were high 13 second cars stock. I could see that happening. A huge difference between those and the 03-04 "Terminator" Cobras though.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Pretty easy to tell if it was new. What did the spoiler look like? Did it look like it was one piece with the trunk or did it stick up above the trunk? If it looked like it was molded into the trunk then it's an 03, if not then it's an 01.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Pretty easy to tell if it was new. What did the spoiler look like? Did it look like it was one piece with the trunk or did it stick up above the trunk? If it looked like it was molded into the trunk then it's an 03, if not then it's an 01.
Yeah it was on two short towers and had the ends curled over towards the trunk a bit... I think anyways... Fiancé seems to agree with me on the design, would make sense as a college student probably couldn't afford an 03 or newer (don't mean the car is expensive, but insurance around here would kill him)
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