I had posted just yesterday on a Dead Clutch Petal.

I installed a new Mst.Cylinder and Slave purchased from Dodge.
No Bleeding required

After installation, the clutch petal still has no kick back action. Its like I push the cluth in, and nothing is pushing back against it.

Ideas?

Still Stranded!!

 

the clutch face might have came off and is stacked up between the pressure plate and fly wheel. I've seen this before.

 

Now yesterday I was able to get the truck home by starting it while the transmission was in 2nd gear. I was able to shift into 3rd (on the fly, while finding just the right spot with the gas petal). By your thoughts of what you think is wrong. Would all this still make sense? Is the fork spring loaded inside?
I called the local parts store and they want $299.00 for the complet set wrapped in plastic. Something about tools included.
Anyway to inspect this thing without taking off the drive shafts, transfer case and transmission?
I think Im in for a long night under a Dodge!!

 

Is yours a 6 speed or 5? These trannys are real heavy. that's the alinement tool their talking about, to center the clutch in the pressure plate. I'm going to the shop as we speak to put in a SBC fe in a 02 6-speed for a guy, I charge $200 buck to change a clutch. If you havent ever put in a clutch before and don't have a good tranny jack (at least a good floor jack). and the crossmember can be a bear to git out. This won't be a good nite to say the least. I can do one in around 4-5 hours, but I have a lift to pick up the truck with. you need to make sure that's your problem before you go to pulling it apart. SORRY for your troubles

 

Hey blackdiesel ^ Have any tricks on that cross member? I usually just beat it out with a big hammer and prying it with a bar. Then I set it straight up under the hoist arm and lower the weight of the vehicle onto it to "bend" it slightly! Goes it tons easier that way, then when you tighten it all back up the bolts pull it up tight against the frame. I KNOW this is very redneck, shadetree, and hacking like , but I have YET to find anyway to get it back in reasonably! Why in the world did they need to make it in a V shape I'll never know! Engineers - yesterday they couldn't spell it, today they is one! LOL

 

I use a port-o-power to pry apart the frame alittle, makes it alot easyer to get it out. the frame is tapered down. so the crossmember has to go up, then back, then out

 

5 speed manual.

I just installed a new transfer case 2 weeks ago on my own. Your wright, the crossmember was a BEAR! Then last week was a new starter
I dont think I have any other choice but to pull the transmission. What else can be wrong. To push the petal in and it not push back. Thats the job of the fork right?
I have done a couple of transmissions in my life. Maybe 2-3 replacing the clutch. A few years back (20 - 25) but I still got my good sense. Just not as good of back!
I have a nice roller floor jack but no jack stand. Im also at the mercy of the garare concrete floor.
I replaced the transfer case (start to finish) in 4 hours with the help of a friend.
I really think no matter what, the trouble is somewhere in the transmission.

HEY-- I have had 3rd gear hard to get into position and grinds a bit on occasion from 2nd to 3rd. Has to go into place at just the right time and speed. How hard is this to repair or have done once the transmission is out?

And....... Sorry for all the questions! How do I remove the shifter from the tranny?

 

I just pulled the truck into the garage to work on this tranny.
I see it leaking fluid all over the floor when I stop and find that its dripping out the open slot on the tranny.
Its the fluid from the new Mst. and slave cylinder I just insalled this morning.

What could have gone wrong? I cut the retainer clip plastic leaving the tip on the end of the shaft. Inserted it into the tranny and replace the 2 bolts holding it in place.

Now what ?

Thanks everyone for all the help so far!

 

Brake fluid right? If that's the case you might have just got a bad one, and you won't have to pull the tranny. Most leave that plastic stap on there and it will break when you step on the pedal the first time. Was yours a one peice or two? where is it leaking from?

 

The box from Dodge was a complet unit, but come in 2 parts. I removed and installed the Master first then went after the slave.
On the slave, I cut the plastic strap prior and the plunger expanded. I installed the unit by simply pushing in on the bolts and adding the nuts and tightening it all down.

Then I hooked the 2 units together (can I unhook them to try using my old slave with a new master?)

Then I tried the clutch petal and straight to the floor. After the 3rd push, there was no resistance. Probably because I was out of fluid!

Okay...Today I remove the unit from the transmission and it has blown apart.
The plunger, the rubber top and a white plastic sleeve were still on the plunger which was inside the tranny sticking out just a bit.

I reached my finger inside the tranny and could feel a metal bar with a depression in it the felt like it should receive the plunger. The lever was maybe 1-1/4 in is all.

So, I have the unit that was on the truck laying here in 1 solid piece and the new unit installed still in 1 piece (with the exception of the plunger blowing out). And a truck that isnt working.

What can I do with all this to get it repaired on a Sunday with only the local auto parts store open?

BTW---I tried really hard pushing on the lever in the tranny with my finger and it wouldnt budge. Im assuming thats a good thing!

Thanks...

 

The retainer you should have left on. If your plunger missed the clutch arm you just shot the plunger out the end. Take a light and looking the bell housing to see if your clutch arm is already depressed. If it is then your clutch facing may have double stacked like the guy said in the above post. The clutch arm sometimes will come off the pivot ball and turn so look for that as well. You might be able to put your slave back together (all depends on if it had a retaining clip on the end or not). Hopefully you can so you don’t have to buy a new one. The 2 plastic clips pop right off the fist time you mash your pedal and are there to make it easy for you. Let us know what you see inside. Hope this helps you.

Mark

 

Yeah ^ you won't ever get enough leverage to push it by hand! Thats a good thing. You can probably put the new slave back together with everything clean and lubed with brake fluid and be o.k. I would guess as long as the new piston rod is good, and no cuts on the o-rings or seals it would be better to put in than the old one. It is going to be a bear to bleed, at least they usually are. I try to gravity bleed as much as possible. Fill up the resevoir and open the bleeder. Keep the cap off the resevoir and let the fluid flow - keep the resevoir filled. When you think you have bled it enough, let it flow some more! Then the best way I have found is to NOT use the pumping method. This is going to sound funny, but get underneath the truck. Have a friend get in. You open the bleeder and say "down". The helper will push the pedal to the floor- slowly. Then you close the bleeder and say "up". The helper then lets the pedal return up. Repeat until no air and pedal acts normal. Make sure to keep the resevoir full always! Good luck.

 

Okay, I dumped the slave fluid in a bucket and out pops a spring on this new unit. I installed the spring, a piece of plastic, the rubber boot and the rod. I installed the rod and made sure it was resting in the lever cup holder thing!!

A little resistance pushing it in, but I had taken the cap off the fluid. Its all back together and I just filled it up. Where is this bleeder though?

 

Heres a picture that might help with my problem. I see nowhere a bleeder valve of any kind.

Anyone have a link or a pic or knowledge. I think bleeding will now fix my problem and I can actually drive again!!

Sucks to only have 1 vehicle...

 

Well I don't know about an 01 you might have one but on my 06 there is no bleeder valve on it. My 05 has a 48re. Even the SBC kit I replaced my 06's with it didn't have a bleeder neither. Might be able to bleed it off by holding the slave having the plunger is straight up and just barely in the slave cylinder an do it like he says above. If you do have a bleeder valve then you’ll be lucky. You'll just have to try it and see. :|

Mark