How Can I Fix This? Passanger Cross Member Broke
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From: My head lays down in Murrieta, but the day light hours are spent in San Diego, Ca.
I'm thinking that it's going to be hard to get that clean enough to use 7018 rod on it..and 7018 ain't the easyest to get a welder to want to use,overhead,and sideways.(I'm not saying that 7018 would not be best,just tough to get a good,pretty weld with there)
I'd MIG it,and fishplate it,looks to me like that truck did a slide into a ditch,most likely cracked for quite some time,just finally broke.
If it's reinforced well it should be fine (IMO)
I'd MIG it,and fishplate it,looks to me like that truck did a slide into a ditch,most likely cracked for quite some time,just finally broke.
If it's reinforced well it should be fine (IMO)
I'm thinking that it's going to be hard to get that clean enough to use 7018 rod on it..and 7018 ain't the easyest to get a welder to want to use,overhead,and sideways.(I'm not saying that 7018 would not be best,just tough to get a good,pretty weld with there)
I'd MIG it,and fishplate it,looks to me like that truck did a slide into a ditch,most likely cracked for quite some time,just finally broke.
If it's reinforced well it should be fine (IMO)
I'd MIG it,and fishplate it,looks to me like that truck did a slide into a ditch,most likely cracked for quite some time,just finally broke.
If it's reinforced well it should be fine (IMO)
A mig is a wire welder. The mig does not perform well in dirty, rusty conditions. 7018 has far more ductile properties, which is what one wants on a dynamic load such as a frame. I have repaired lots of heavy equipment with dirt, rust and oil present in the repair area. To use a mig in those conditions generally brings out the porosity gremlin.
Basic warranty applies. There is an additional warranty on "rust through" on the body but that is not your issue as it appears to me. Looks like there was some sort of excessive force put on the frame/crossmember that resulted in a crack. Not really a manufacturing defect in my opinion. You can always try though......what's the worst that they could say? LOL
I'm with the 7018DC crowd- maybe a 6011 pass first w/a 7018 cover. YES, it will hold if you get it good and CLEAN (be **** about this w/a wire wheel) and he is a good welder. Quite a few guys like to "practice" on important stuff like this; have him show you an overhead before he touches your rig!
but it gets the farmboy/fab shop nod from me to weld.
but it gets the farmboy/fab shop nod from me to weld.
I've only been repairing stuff like this for 30 years, but here's what we'd do:
Reasonably clean the weld zone.
Reposition crossmember correctly.
Run a root pass with a DC "digger" like 6010 or just use 6011 "farmer rod".
Clean the heat-stripped weld zone.
Fill/cap with 7018 all around.
Weld in gusset plates (no scabbing, please!
)
Your CTD will break before the repair does.
Reasonably clean the weld zone.
Reposition crossmember correctly.
Run a root pass with a DC "digger" like 6010 or just use 6011 "farmer rod".
Clean the heat-stripped weld zone.
Fill/cap with 7018 all around.
Weld in gusset plates (no scabbing, please!
)
Your CTD will break before the repair does.
I never like to count my chickens before they hatch but heres the pics of after the welding. Lets hope its fixed, ive only driven about 5 miles so far on it.
Its also welded on the inside of the frame but I couldnt get any pics of that since Ive put everything else back together



Its also welded on the inside of the frame but I couldnt get any pics of that since Ive put everything else back together






