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help with injection pump.........emergency (horse show saturday

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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help with injection pump.........emergency (horse show saturday

I was able to find a fuel cutout solenoid for 89.00 plus tax (the dealer wanted 230.00) at Turbo, diesel and Electric. Saved a bundle. Hell even shipping from Atlanta would be cheaper than quotes I have seen.
http://www.tdesystems.com/

So now I have a new question........My injector pump basically was hanging loose on the studs. The nuts lying under the pump were easy to get and I was able to attatch the top one. I am getting a code (p0216) Injection Timing Control Circuit Malfunction.

I am preparing to disassemble the engine to put the other 2 nuts on the pump ( ) but is there something amiss that I need to do while I have access or by virtue of remounting the pump solve the code problem?

Thanks very much

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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I wish I had a better answer for you, but a P0216 code means your VP44 is saying goodbye. There are a lot of options available for replacement, but none that will get you squared away for Saturday. As for the nuts being loose, I've never heard that before, but I'm sure it could cause some serious problems with the shaft of the VP44 and the timing gear. Personally I wouldn't chance the show on Saturday as your truck could easily leave you, your wagon, and your horse(s) sitting on the side of the road. Do some research on this site for VP44 and you will have weeks of reading to decide witch replacement option is best for you.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Crazy right? Yeah I smell gas and look under the hood and the fuel cutout on the pump is wobbling like crazy, practicall broke in half. So I get a new one on and the codes disappear for about an hour then the light is back on. I look again, with a flashlight, and see the studs sticking out with no nuts on them. I was able to get a nut on the top but it is still throwing the codes...........new pump huh, wow maybe I should just get a new (pretty) truck.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 08:47 PM
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Did the truck show any symtoms as far as running problems? You probably don't know how the bolts came loose, huh? When my VP44 went out at 140K, it took a while (3 months, 5000 miles) before if finally died. Never left me stranded or anyhting. Just finally one day had to limp it home, only a couple miles. Guess I was somewhat lucky. Anyway, when I removed the pump to replace it, I found out the was no bolt on the lower bracket. I was a liitlle anoyed because I bought it with 80k on it at a dealership. I think someone was into the pump problem before I got. I know P0216 is bad news for the VP44. Was it so loose that the keyway may have fell out of the pump shaft? Was the truck still running?

I bought a VP44 from cumminsstuff.com for $750 plus a $150 core charge. I know it sounds to cheap to be new, it was problably reman, but It worked for me. Also don't know if cumminsstuff is still around or of the same name. The VP44 is easy to replace and a lot less expensive than a new truck.

I say make sure the key is in the shaft and the pump is tight. Then if the code still shows up just replace it. The bigger question is why in the world the pump bolts were loose?????

Good luck.
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 06:54 AM
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Actually I found 2 nuts lying under the pump and the pump was at least 1/4 in loose. I have to assume the bottom nut is either off or loose. By the way this truck is a 97 silverado, I am sorry I am posting here yet I was hoping for some info anywhere I could get it.

I smelled gas and found the fuel cutout all but broken off the pump. I replaced it and the codes went away. An hour later the check light came on and I found the reason the cutout was damaged was the vibration of the loose pump.

One would assume it would have taken a while for the nuts to work loose yet I have had not a bit of problem until now. The truck actually runs great even now but I am worried about hauling my horses.

I am hoping I can reattatch the pump and time it and be alright.

Again I am sorry if I shouldn't be here.........thanks for any replies
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Old Oct 7, 2005 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ludwick_j
The VP44 is easy to replace and a lot less expensive than a new truck.
Off-Topic- I agree it sucks that our trucks have trouble prone injection systems... But I just like the way you said it. A VP-44 aint cheap, but I bet we would all rather buy one of them than a new truck...

Just wanted to say thanks for the perspective.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread, hope you make it to the show.
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