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Old 02-18-2011, 01:07 PM
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Hey guys, I'm new here but I've got several serious problems. Right now my truck has been in the shop for 2 1/2 weeks, they can't seem to fix it. It will not stay primed up after sitting for several hours. I also just noticed I had oil leaking every where. So I checked the oil it was unusually clean and overfull. The tech at the shop said it had give vp44 shaft seal. Any ideas? Thanx
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Other than the shaft seal on the vp44, is there any other WUz to get fuel in the oil? I'm stuck in Alabama tryin to get home to fl please any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx again
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Shane,
I am pretty sure the first thing everyone is going to ask is what year, make and model of truck and what mods
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Sorry, 1998.5 DODGE RAM 2500 5.9 liter no mods all stock 4X4. Like I said I'm new to this. I bought the truck new with only 6 miles on it never had any problems like this. Have replaced lift pump several times and injection pump several times due to bad lift pump. Had hard startin problems so I changed the lift pump no help. The truck is at a cummins shop, it seems they Jst want to change parts till they get it right.
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sounds like you have a bad injector
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what part of al. are you in
Old 02-18-2011, 04:49 PM
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Cola Alabama, don't think it could be an injector cause when its running there is loss of power. It find great once its primed up, but oil is clean and oil level rises
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Add fuel dye and diesel fuel to an approved five gallon fuel container. Route the fuel return and transfer pump supply line into the approved container of fuel and dye. Start the engine and let it idle. Check for leaks at the fuel injectors and behind VP44 fuel injection pump nut access plug. WARNING: THE FUEL INJECTION PUMP SUPPLIES EXTREMELY HIGH FUEL PRESSURE TO EACH INDIVIDUAL INJECTOR THROUGH THE HIGH-PRESSURE LINES. FUEL UNDER THIS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE CAN PENETRATE THE SKIN AND CAUSE PERSONAL INJURY. WEAR SAFETY GOGGLES AND ADEQUATE PROTECTIVE CLOTHING. DO NOT LOOSEN FUEL FITTINGS WHILE ENGINE IS RUNNING. Remove valve cover and check if fuel dye is found around the injectors, remove the suspect injector and inspect the injector, injector bore and injector O-Ring for damage. If fuel is dye is found around the VP44 fuel injection pump drive gear nut the VP44 fuel injection pump front seal is leaking and the pump must be replaced.
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Lady night I was there when we did that same test. There was no evidence of dye around injecter. There was however very very light traces around the shaft seal on vp44 the deal is around $20 am o wasting time and money replacing the seal. The seal had no apparent signs of west and the dye was almost not visible in the light
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My typing is awful,n e way the seal is about $20 am I wasting time and money
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the injector(s) aren't leaking on the outside where you can see it. They are dripping fuel when the engine is off. That fuel weeps past the pistons and into the oil. You really need to not be driving it. Severely diluted oil will not properly lube internal engine parts and it will self destruct. You need all the injectors pulled, tested and repaired as needed. Your chasing a hog trail with the turbo.
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Did they check the crossover tubes that lead from the injector pump to the injector? From the point that the fuel line runs into the block, to the side of the injector is a crossover tube that may be leaking into the rocker area. That would definitely cause a leak down of prime and also fuel in the oil.
Just a thought!
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I don't think they have checked the crossover tubes. Or tested the injectors I'll bring these ideas up Mon morning
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Is there anybody on the forum in that area, that can help him? It appears that the shop he is using isn't the help that he needs.
Big Shane, are they receptive to your suggestions? If they are, than this forum will be a big help to you. At this point, I would listen closely to what the posters are telling you, and convey it back. It appears that members here know more about the Cummins in a Dodge than your shop does.
By the way, a big welcome to you, and this is just the start. There are tons of good and helpful folks here, and a cumulative amount of wisdom that will stagger the mind. Hope you get back on the road fast and cheap!
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My truck was at cummins. I got it back yesterday afternoon. It must still be losing prime, turned it over about 15 times this morning before it started. Guess I'm still stuck in Creola, ALABAMA.


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