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Toyota and Nissan, whispering in Cummins ear?

Old Jan 10, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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Toyota and Nissan, whispering in Cummins ear?

http://www.pickuptruck.com/html/auto...els/page1.html

No time to be complacent Dodge, get ahead of the curve and be pro-active. If you aren't moving forward your falling back ....

Locking up Cummins is only a part of the puzzle, you need to be the market innovators and leaders.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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A Toyota heavy duty (real full size truck) with a Cummins?

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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A Toyota heavy duty (real full size truck) with a Cummins?

~Rob

If this happens...bye bye American sales!

And sooner or a later an over seas vehicle will have a diesel truck, more than likely i would say a 1/2ton first... and the "top trucks" will plummit to the bottom in a consumers eye.... with the great warrenty you get with over seas vehicles vs American vehicles.

Kinda bad to say..but just my opinion.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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Yes, but it is a V8. Shor(er) stroke, higher revving. Ala other pickup truck diesels. Not an I-6.

It sounds like Dodge is still planning to ship an I-6
http://www.turbodieselregister.com/f...d.php?t=148246
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Toyota could just use a Hino engine.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:00 PM
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I dunno why people don't think Toyota can't make a good <diesel> truck. They build trucks for lots of other markets, like Australia, etc. They aren't trucks like we think of trucks, but they also build 3 and 5 ton trucks. Hey, they build fork lifts and Lexus' so I am sure they will sooner or later figure out HD trucks.

Not that I'd want one.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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I had one of Toyota's '81 4banger diesel PU's... I loved that little truck.. Wished I still had it... It was too little though... Definitely a 2 seater and I needed a bigger cab after I married. Great mileage,~31-35mpg, but not near enough power for today's buyer..
It had a Toyota manufactured 1.9L I-4 NA forklift engine in it and it had some interesting problems running 75+mph for hours on end .. Nothing a breather reroute didn't fix . DieselKiki injection system, absolutely NO fuel problems...
If Toyota sees they can play in the diesel PU market, they'll likely make a good 'un... Toyota did it once, they can do it again...

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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Almost all of this market share increase came from Dodge, the weakest player in the space with an engine/transmission combo that just doesn't measure up to superior Ford and GM diesel powertrains.


Our trany might not be the best buy our engine is the best on the market.

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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I'd rather have a Toyota built I-6 diesel than a V-8 Cummins any day. If Toyota decides to build their own I-6, the Cummins will get a run for it's money.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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I liked how they pointed out that Ford may end up being the only US built HD! Has Ford decided to move from Mexico, back to the US? The Chevy/GMC is just as much US as Ford is, and they are all built right here in the US!
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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I can't see it happening....plus there full size truck, only has 6 lugs, only six thousand pound axle? Kinda odd
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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I like how they mention that the Ford powertrain is superior to Dodges......Guess they look at numbers only. Because anyone that knows about the 6.0 would be
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by iker42
I can't see it happening....plus there full size truck, only has 6 lugs, only six thousand pound axle? Kinda odd
Rumor has it that the `07 Tundra redesign will offer a 1 ton/ dually option, but it is still speculation as far as i know. What I HAVE heard (from my regional service rep) is that the new Tundra will have a larger V8, 5.7L, rumored to be in the 400hp range. No firm word on anything diesel but IMO if they do it it will be a Hino (Hino is a subsidiary of Toyota). just my(probably inaccurate) .02.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 06:11 PM
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They got them world wide... I want ONE here.....
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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toyota all ready has there on diesel engines , they are used in the marine industry , they make a I-6 that is just alittle smaller then the 5.9 , and it makes up to 350hp in marine version
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