You may call it "greedy" now, but wait until about October of 2008 when we are paying $4.00 + a gallon for diesel, you'll be singing a different tune then. 30 MPG is not a pie in the sky idea. I submit that the only reason ALL cars on the highway aren't getting 30 PLUS MPG's is simply beacuse the market hasn't demanded it.

It's comming around, VW with the TDI, now supposedly Toyota. Just like in the past, about 10 years later the American Auto makers will catch on.......

 

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I have too agree!
Seems the big three have always played catch-up to the imports
The imports not without their flaws in new designs generally seem to get on top of the problems sooner and make the nessasary changes where as the big three seem to just ride out a lemon and not really fix any problems untill the sales quotas are met. Flipping cars in my younger years allowed me and my wife to own and drive 67 different automobiles in the 29 years of driving and I can say with out doubt if DC didnt buy the Cummins to put in their truck I would not own a Dodge. There is good and bad in every little corner of the world but in my little corner the the GM and Dodge (never owned a new Ford )dealers have treated me with the worst service and respect I have ever seen in the 11 new cars to date. IMO if the imports get into the ring with the big three for a full sized diesel truck it will be a very good thing for the consumer as it will force the big three to do a lot better than they are doing now.

 

I must agree, that would be nice!!

 

you look oversea's and what do you see for gas prices,4-5-6 dollars a gallon,thats why the japanese companies are ahead of the game they have had to build high milage cars,for their people,for years.i was born and raised on american muscle cars,still have some but what do i drive now,a tdi vw why,just look at the new chevy ads on tv(we have 9 models that get over 30 mpg)whoopie s#!t,i get over 50 .and those aveo's 34 mpg i've drank from tougher beer cans,when toyota does come out with a small diesel pickup i'll be checkin em out for sure.

 

you know, i have been hearing about this 20 MPG every since (or before) i bought my 01 then my 03. Have yet to see over 16 mpg and that is babying them. Drive em hard or tow heavy and do good staying above 10-12 mpg witch i expect is "real world numbers"

 

even if the imports were only equal to the big three in quality they would still beat the pants off them with the difference in service.

 

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Amen!

 

Everyone seems to be going on about this milage thing, you bought a dodge, a work truck, it's not a 30mpg grocery getter. As for the Toyota truck, if it don't have a cummins and 6 tires on the ground I don't need or want it

 

Now all of you take what i`m about to say with a grain (or bushel) of salt. I work as a tech at a Toyota dealer, I happened to be talking to the parts manager about a week or so ago. He tells me that Toyota just bought a controlling share in Cummins and that they (`Yota) are planning on using a Cummins of some sort in the new Tundra. Said he got the info from one of the regional reps (? ?). At least he pronounced it C U M M I N S (left off the "G" ). I have NO idea if there is any validity to his statements but... makes ya think.

 

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Hey HOSS you see this
Toyota NOT Ford owns Cummins

 

I forgot to mention in my last post, upon hearing this "news" I promptly scoured the net when I got home from work and could not find ANY corroborating evidence to the guy`s claims...I guess thats kinda important huh?, LOL!

 

Toyota with a Cummins= The last truck that you wil ever have to buy. Even if you are 16 years old!!

 

Soooo.... this will be a 'Toycummins'?

chaikwa.

 

The idea of 30 mpg in a 3/4 ton PU is a little off for just a diesel engine. Take a look at the Sprinter with it's "...2.7-liter I5 Turbo Diesel engine produces 154 horsepower at 3,800 RPM and 243 pounds-feet of torque from 1,600 to 2,400 RPM.". It doesn't get 30 mpg and it has a smaller diesel engine and it's in the same weight class as our trucks GVWR. You may be able to get that high doing 55 mph highway but I would use low to mid 20's as more reliable. I really don't see toyota beating MB in the engine department. If people want better mileage, they need less power and smaller vehicles.

 

I am not a fan of buying foriegn but I might consider a ToyCummins