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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Question about fuel additive

The other day I was at the gas station to get fuel, and as I was pouring some "STANADYNE" in the tank, The guy at the next pump ask what kind of diesel additive I was using. I told him STANADYNE was the only thing I ever used. He said he had been driving diesels all his life, and he knew something better, and a lot cheaper. Of course I ask what that was. He said he always used a mixture of half ACETONE and half MOTOR OIL. That would be cheaper for sure, but my truck is a major investment, and I'm not pouring anything in the tank unless I'm sure it wont hurt anything. Anybody on here ever heard of using a mixture like that?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:57 PM
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I haven't heard of that one yet, but many people come up with some bazzar concoctions. Some may work and some may cause dammage. If you don't know Don't use it. My advise is to stay with a known brand that is widely used. You have a large investment in your truck, why try to save a buck or two and risk loosing an injection system or an engine??
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:20 PM
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I can see the half-baked reasoning: Acetone to clean things and oil to make them slippery. MIght even work, but not in my engine.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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Some "experts" will tell of pouring gasoline in the tank as an additive, others ATF, everyone has their own "solutions".
The modern injection pumps are a little less tolerant of "witch's brews" than the mechanical pumps from the days of yore.

Stanadyne PF w/ a dose of Lucas every once in awhile for added lubricity is all I use.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:52 PM
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here is a little something intersting. Lubricity has sometimes been mistakenly compared to yhe viscosity of a fuel. The following statement from Lucas1
(the leading equipment manufacturer in England, that was recently purchased explains well:" The lubrication of the fuel is not directly proivded by viscosity of the fuel, but by other componets in the fuel will prevent wear on contacting metal surfaces."
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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I posted the same question about acetone on another site, and still have not found anyone who has actually tried it. However one person posted this link. It is very interesting reading.
http://www.lubedev.com/articles/additive.htm
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Re: Question about fuel additive

Originally posted by Ray Roton
He said he had been driving diesels all his life, and he knew something better, and a lot cheaper.
No he hasn't.

He said he always used a mixture of half ACETONE and half MOTOR OIL.
He probably hasn't changed his oil yet this year!

Guys like him just give bad advice. Anyone who would actually do that to an engine, must be driving a rental.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Ive heard the ATF solution,

and yes Acetone and oil ive heard of too, Gasoline, not to certain, But id rather pony up the dough for somethin that has already been proven and serves its purpose, My old idi saw it, and now my ram sees it too....

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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Tranny fuid is a big no no. Being that tranny fluid has friction modifiers in it for the clutch paks in the tranny.

IMO I would never use acetone, just seeing what it does to my wifes finger nails (its the main ingredient in nail polish remover), I really do not want to see what it does inside a motor.
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Old Dec 21, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Tranny fluid also turns the fuel red.
This is a big no no.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by Dieseldude4x4
Tranny fluid also turns the fuel red.
This is a big no no.
Good point there too. It would be extremely hard to say the least to convince the DOT inspector that you run tranny fluid and not off road diesel.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by jrs_dodge_diesel
Tranny fuid is a big no no. Being that tranny fluid has friction modifiers in it for the clutch paks in the tranny.

IMO I would never use acetone, just seeing what it does to my wifes finger nails (its the main ingredient in nail polish remover), I really do not want to see what it does inside a motor.
I agree, I would NEVER use ATF. I would think 2-cycle oil would be good, after all, it is intended to be burned in the combustion chamber. Perhaps a little 2-cycle oil mixed with my STANADYNE.

As for the corrosiveness of the accetone. I don't know if that would be a problem or not. We are talking about a few ounces dulited with a full tank of fuel.
I'm not willing to be a guinea pig with the acetone, but would like to know if anyone out there has used it.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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Lots of these off the mainstream additive suggestions are leftovers from the old days when diesel additives weren't widely available and oils didn't have all the additives they do nowadays.
Most of the time you'll notice it's older guys recommending them.
Now that diesel additives are so easy to come by you'll find most are cheaper than the old timer's methods and do a better job to boot, no real reason to fool around with a backyard mix.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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check out smartgas.net
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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If acetone is so great why hasn't someone marketed it yet as a fuel additive? I have a hard time believing adding a few ounces of acetone will give a 22% increase in a diesel's fuel economy.

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