The Phoenix
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Re:The Phoenix
This is an awesome machine. Carl hep of Carls 4x4 shop owens it. Carls shop are the guys that did my first power mods to my dodge. Felt real good about having them do my work after Carl took me to his house and showed me that 8) machine along with his other toys that were extremely bombed. Carl's 4x4 Grants Pass Oregon
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Re:The Phoenix
[quote author=wannadiesel link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=0#msg204743 date=1067820744]
The V-16-92 is just what it sounds like, a V-16. It's 2 V-8's bolted end to end, each V-8 having it's own scavenge pump (aka supercharger) nestled in the valley of the engine. Each pair of turbos feeds one V-8, but I don't know if they are compound. Most setups just run one turbo off each exhaust manifold. The "superchargers" are probably a restriction at high RPM, their only function is to blow air through the cylinders to purge exhaust at low speed. They used to be called scavenge pumps before hot rodders started bolting them on gas motors.
That is one amazing truck, I'd love to hear it run.
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Guess im confused, how do you bolt it end to end? I mean ive seen the tractor pulls where they have 2 engines but both are by themselves, So are they connected through the crankshafts then or what?
The V-16-92 is just what it sounds like, a V-16. It's 2 V-8's bolted end to end, each V-8 having it's own scavenge pump (aka supercharger) nestled in the valley of the engine. Each pair of turbos feeds one V-8, but I don't know if they are compound. Most setups just run one turbo off each exhaust manifold. The "superchargers" are probably a restriction at high RPM, their only function is to blow air through the cylinders to purge exhaust at low speed. They used to be called scavenge pumps before hot rodders started bolting them on gas motors.
That is one amazing truck, I'd love to hear it run.
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Guess im confused, how do you bolt it end to end? I mean ive seen the tractor pulls where they have 2 engines but both are by themselves, So are they connected through the crankshafts then or what?
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As far as I recall, the engines are not bolted together, it is a single V-16 casting. However, the heads are the same as used on the V-8 and inline 4 engine. Having one head for every 4 cylinders.
#20
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Re:The Phoenix
[quote author=kingofdodge7131 link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=15#msg209916 date=1068920465]
[quote author=wannadiesel link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=0#msg204743 date=1067820744]
The V-16-92 is just what it sounds like, a V-16. It's 2 V-8's bolted end to end, each V-8 having it's own scavenge pump (aka supercharger) nestled in the valley of the engine. Each pair of turbos feeds one V-8, but I don't know if they are compound. Most setups just run one turbo off each exhaust manifold. The "superchargers" are probably a restriction at high RPM, their only function is to blow air through the cylinders to purge exhaust at low speed. They used to be called scavenge pumps before hot rodders started bolting them on gas motors.
That is one amazing truck, I'd love to hear it run.
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Guess im confused, how do you bolt it end to end? I mean ive seen the tractor pulls where they have 2 engines but both are by themselves, So are they connected through the crankshafts then or what?
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On Detroit v-12 and v-16 92 series, the two blocks bolt together nose to nose. The cranks also bolt together. The acessories run off the front of the engine on a special machined housing. They are literally two engines bolted together with one govener controlling the two. They are used among other uses on Marine, Generators, light locomotive. Detroit also makes much larger engines, if you ever get a chance to see inside a marine warehouse, they are interesting some 15 feet high.
[quote author=wannadiesel link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=0#msg204743 date=1067820744]
The V-16-92 is just what it sounds like, a V-16. It's 2 V-8's bolted end to end, each V-8 having it's own scavenge pump (aka supercharger) nestled in the valley of the engine. Each pair of turbos feeds one V-8, but I don't know if they are compound. Most setups just run one turbo off each exhaust manifold. The "superchargers" are probably a restriction at high RPM, their only function is to blow air through the cylinders to purge exhaust at low speed. They used to be called scavenge pumps before hot rodders started bolting them on gas motors.
That is one amazing truck, I'd love to hear it run.
[/quote]
Guess im confused, how do you bolt it end to end? I mean ive seen the tractor pulls where they have 2 engines but both are by themselves, So are they connected through the crankshafts then or what?
[/quote]
On Detroit v-12 and v-16 92 series, the two blocks bolt together nose to nose. The cranks also bolt together. The acessories run off the front of the engine on a special machined housing. They are literally two engines bolted together with one govener controlling the two. They are used among other uses on Marine, Generators, light locomotive. Detroit also makes much larger engines, if you ever get a chance to see inside a marine warehouse, they are interesting some 15 feet high.
#22
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Re:The Phoenix
The only one that I am familiar with and drove many miles on was the v-12/71, it was one block and used two 6/71 heads. Some non-turbo engines made over 500 horse. Real fuel hogs if the power was used.
There were also 6/110 engines, not normally used on the road. There were a bunch of 4/53, v6/53, and of course the v8/71 (318) which was probably the most used Detroit for many years.
There were also 6/110 engines, not normally used on the road. There were a bunch of 4/53, v6/53, and of course the v8/71 (318) which was probably the most used Detroit for many years.
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Re:The Phoenix
We have a few of the old 8-71's here at work for emergency pumps. They never fail to start and sound real good loaded up. I got into an arguement with one of our top mechanics when I told him it had four exhaust valves per cylinder. He said no, two are intakes and I just shook my head.
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Re:The Phoenix
[quote author=Dieseldude4x4 link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=15#msg210446 date=1069074306]
We have a few of the old 8-71's here at work for emergency pumps. They never fail to start and sound real good loaded up. I got into an argument with one of our top mechanics when I told him it had four exhaust valves per cylinder. He said no, two are intakes and I just shook my head.
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This is at some sort of nuclear facility right?? I'm starting to run now......
We have a few of the old 8-71's here at work for emergency pumps. They never fail to start and sound real good loaded up. I got into an argument with one of our top mechanics when I told him it had four exhaust valves per cylinder. He said no, two are intakes and I just shook my head.
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This is at some sort of nuclear facility right?? I'm starting to run now......
#25
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Re:The Phoenix
[quote author=spots link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=15#msg210749 date=1069118199]
[quote author=Dieseldude4x4 link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=15#msg210446 date=1069074306]
He said no, two are intakes and I just shook my head.
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This is at some sort of nuclear facility right?? I'm starting to run now......
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Interesting point, does he also work on the reactors? :-
[quote author=Dieseldude4x4 link=board=8;threadid=21859;start=15#msg210446 date=1069074306]
He said no, two are intakes and I just shook my head.
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This is at some sort of nuclear facility right?? I'm starting to run now......
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Interesting point, does he also work on the reactors? :-
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