I've personally had enough of California's crazy attempts at EPA'ing the diesel out of the States. We need cars like this one in this country, and it's truley time we make our voice heard. Try doing this with anything on these shores....
http://www.carpages.co.uk/honda/hond...echo=868369562

 

Thats awesome! I agree we do need more diesel passenger cars here in the US.I had a vw tdi before my dodge,and they are great.They are fairly quick,and with todays diesel prices.. you cant beat the MPG.

 

Not much for small cars but I would have to look at getting one.

 

with an average of 92 mpg I think that would sell quite well over here. Although I think we would have to clean up our diesel first....

 

now thats what we need, a few thousand of those and maybe the frigin diesel price would come down due to the reserves filling up again. Granted it wouldn't get me outa the mud I was in yesterday with or without the half ton of stone I had in the back. hmmmmm wonder if ya could squeze two of those motors into the dodge bay.... worst case you would end up with 35 40 mpg?

 

Am I reading that wrong or are they saying that the car reached a top speed of 84.25 mph at the end of 1 mile? "84.25 mph (1 mile standing start)"
If it takes a full mile to get up to 84, it wouldn't survive on the freeway where you have to be up to 70-75 fast or get run over. That thing isn't as big as a dodge so won't get the respect that a full-size truck gets. I'd love to get that mileage but have to have some performance as well.

 

I read that as it did the quarter mile at 133mph with a one mile rolling start & 84mph from a standing start.

 

I didn't see any mention of 1/4 mile and they said the test was done at an oval track but I hope that you're right. I could easily live with that level of performance and mileage.

 

Flying mile means that it entered a 1 mile course at top speed and averaged 133MPH dring that course. Standing mile means that it averaged 84 MPH in a 1 mile stretch from a standing start. This means the car accelerated from 0 to... whatever trap speed it was but from the time he punched the throttle to the mile marker he averaged 84MPH meaning that he did a mile in something like 42.857 seconds. To me this would mean 1/4 mile times somewhere in the 16 second range... perhaps a little quicker.

 

If you go lurk at the specs in the link at the bottom of the page, you'll see the diesel gets an average of 48mpg and the gas engine gets 34mpg. Still not too shabby. The diesel reaches 62mph in 10~ seconds. I don't think it'll be a traffic hazard. My dad and his girlfriend both have Honda Accords built here by American labor with quality and pride. They are nice cars. His is a two door and hers is four door. Her's is surprisingly roomy front an back. Even 34mpg would save a bundle in fuel bills. I wonder what the 3.41 ratio AAM ring and pinion would do for our highway mileage in our CTDs. I would imagine maybe 23 or 24mpg at 70?

 

Ahh, I'll bet my bottom dollar that Diesel's will become big in the United States in the next decade, just as popular if not more so than gas. The basic design is almost twice as thermally efficient, and Diesel fuel has 30% more energy no matter what way you look at it. So, with the exception of the added initial cost and weight, there is nothing not to like- 30% more power and twice the efficiency. Also, biodiesel has nowhere near the problems of ethanol- a green economy will be much more easier to convert to with more Diesels around.

As I've said before, the question is not why, when or if Diesels will increase tenfold in the United States- the question is how to make money off of it.

 

I sure hope you are right. I am afraid that most American's perception of diesel cars is still suffering from the diesel Oldsmobiles of the 80's.

 

Only drawback I see is the 36K pricetag.

 

I pretty much made my girlfriend buy a Jetta TDI. Her choices were a Cummins Ram, diesel Liberty or diesel Jetta.

Price was 17,300 in the GL series automatic. It gets about 40 MPG and it only has 1000 miles on it so far. We expect to see 50 MPG out of it when I break it in....

 

That car looks great, I hope we get to see some of those and others once ULSD is everywhere here.

My dad and a couple of my uncles thought I was Nuckin Futs for buying a diesel as a daily driver. After a week or two they realized it wasn't so bad, after owning one for the past couple years and seeing how troublefree they are (had a couple MBs) I'd bet they'd be willing to buy one themselves. I want to move up on the power scale though without risking longivity, so I'm looking for a CTD.

I didn't think the TDIs got the mileage unless they were BOMBed a little bit, and broken in a little bit. I can't even imagine 55mpg, I'm just barely getting used to the 32mpg my MB gets and now back to the Talon's 21mpg. Ah well, you play you pay.