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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 12:01 AM
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Protectionism on that price tag? Results of strick diesel emmisions on that Price tag? I hear it could get Jetta TDI fuel economy until the apply the US Emission stuff. Though it was going to be bigger guess not. The whol auto thing plays to more and more folks and employee that can't drive stick or each enough clutches to make the auto cost fieseable these days.
While I agree that more and more folks can't drive stick, there should at least be an option for a manual in what is, really, a base-line runabout truck. Especially in the 4wd versions.

Now - as to the Jetta TDi mpg figures - sorry, but it's a small truck, it's aerodynamically limited, it (being a load-carrying tool) consequentily weighs more as well. My Dad has owned two Toyota's (2wd, reg-cab, 4-cylinder, 5-speed) and the 1990 managed only about 24mpg. His '08 - which is quite a bit larger) is getting around 26mpg. Whereas my Honda accord with roughly similar engine output as the '08 Toyota gets 34 - 36 routinley on the highway.

It's physics, and it's a little tough to get past them. I would be happy with a small truck that could break the 30mpg figure. Good luck with that and an automatic transmission.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Purplezr2
Looking at your sig, sounds like that could be a concern with some of your other trucsk
Excuse me?

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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every time i think about this i get ****** off. Thanks to the epa we dont have squat for a nice diesel compact picup. They sell 4 door ford rangers with small 4 cylinder diesels in other countries and have for years, they sell ford superduties in a swb regular cab with a 4 cylinder cummins.... along with things like brand new jeep wranglers with 4 cylinder diesel...it would be nice to be able to go out and buy a truck like that.

The truck in the test i would buy in a heartbeat...i guarantee the 2.2 that is going to be sold here doesnt get the mileage the 2.5 does...
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 96_12V
While I agree that more and more folks can't drive stick, there should at least be an option for a manual in what is, really, a base-line runabout truck. Especially in the 4wd versions.

Now - as to the Jetta TDi mpg figures - sorry, but it's a small truck, it's aerodynamically limited, it (being a load-carrying tool) consequentily weighs more as well. My Dad has owned two Toyota's (2wd, reg-cab, 4-cylinder, 5-speed) and the 1990 managed only about 24mpg. His '08 - which is quite a bit larger) is getting around 26mpg. Whereas my Honda accord with roughly similar engine output as the '08 Toyota gets 34 - 36 routinley on the highway.

It's physics, and it's a little tough to get past them. I would be happy with a small truck that could break the 30mpg figure. Good luck with that and an automatic transmission.
I would have to disagree with you because the old Isuzu diesel in the 2wd configuaration would get 40-50 mpg depending on driving style. The newer jettas are only getting in the 37-47 MPG range which a small lightweight diesel truck without the emissions choking it down should be able to get.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 08:35 AM
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I would hope it would, however a lot of it comes down to the emissions as you said. It's puzzling how we're so much more concerned with emissions in general than with actual fuel use. Maybe California needs a much larger financial crisis to occur - so that we go back to valuing the basics once again.

For more on this thought, just stop by your local builder's supply and try buying a new gas can. All I can find anymore are CARB-Certified cans, and they redefine "user-unfriendliness."
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:11 AM
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where are these made at?
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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where are these made at?
India.
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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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22k for that? Don't think so. Up here they want 41k for a Suzuki 4x4 truck that is not even a full size truck. They have not sold too many...
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Some may like the idea of getting 30 mpg from a small pickup as not everyone needs big HP/TQ to haul a few bricks or 2x4's from Home Depot to there house
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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I was wondering what happened to all the left over Ford courier Parts
i was thinking it looks like a brand new courier
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 07:34 AM
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The bed looks like it came off a Chevy LUV truck.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DieselDaze
Leg room?
I have a family who all stands 6' or better.
Based on the pics Ive seen, we'd have to sit in the bed in order have enough leg room.
I have to agree. Most all items built in 3rd world countries are designed for their lifestyles. Creature comforts rank very low. Power isn't necessary. Size is for them-not overfed Americans!!

I tried to get into one of those imported miniature trucks that are suppose to replace a 4x4 Ranger with the benefits of a cab. I could barely get in it. No wiggle room for sure. And if I hit a bump I'm not sure what part of my body would hit first, knees, head, shoulders...... I'm 6'-4" and those things are built for the folks you usually see being chased on "COPS"----about 5'-8" and 165 lbs.

Kinda like buying clothes made in Bangladesh, they just don't fit!
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 01:45 PM
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And here's a suprise from a manufacturer who I didn't expect to see it from. The sooncoming Mahindra diesel small trucks will be automatic only in the US. Certainly a deal breaker for me, guess it must be an emissions-compliance thing. I also can't see something like this selling for the stated $22k base price.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2009/08...k-up.html#more
Where does it way that there's only an automatic in these trucks for the U.S. market? I read that the automatic they're going to be providing is a six speed, which is a first for this niche of trucks in the American market... Not that it's the only transmission offered.

Did I miss something?
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by truckjunkie
Where does it way that there's only an automatic in these trucks for the U.S. market? I read that the automatic they're going to be providing is a six speed, which is a first for this niche of trucks in the American market... Not that it's the only transmission offered.

Did I miss something?

Yep - it does. It says "the 5-speed manual tranmission will not make the trip over." It also says somewhere a bit later that "only the 6-speed automtaic will be offered." Unless they have changed the article since I read it.

Such as: The 2.5-liter diesel and five-speed manual aren’t coming here, but they are well matched to the Pik-Up’s needs.

The six-speed automatic transmission (coming to the U.S. as an exclusive in the small pickup truck segment) executes shifts smoothly and doesn’t hunt for the right cog, at least on the flat ground that we drove it on, but there’s noticeable turbo lag at times. We’ll be very interested to see what impact diesel engineering firm AVL has as a key supplier and consultant for Mahindra in tweaking the mHawk to meet the performance expectations of U.S. buyers. In the Scorpio, we wish we could combine the mHawk with the Pik-Up’s 5-speed manual to improve the performance band a bit more.
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:40 PM
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I like the idea of small diesel pickup, but for this price point on a foreign truck, no thanks. American manufacturers are missing the boat on this market.
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