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I wouldn't worry too much about use of 2-stroke oil in the relatively low percentages being discussed here - some individuals, and large trucking outfits will burn FAR greater percentages of used motor oil in their engines mixed into the fuel, with no apparent problems.

And, something not covered as to increased lubricity, is that while most of OUR concern is related more directly to the injector pump and injectors, the same added lubricity that provides THOSE with additional protection and reduced wear, will ALSO provide additional protection and longer life to cylinders, rings and other related parts as well... ;D ;D ;D

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(From another related thread, in case some are interested)<br><br>I was sorta curious about the Power Service stuff, since I've been a long-time user of their &quot;Fuel Supplement&quot; - and some guys prefer their &quot;Diesel Kleen&quot; formula - both are the same price locally at Walmart.<br><br>I sent PS a question as to what the difference actually is between the 2 formulas, since the labels claim pretty much the same qualities for both products - their response was that the fuel supplement was better in colder climates where fuel jelling might be a problem, and the diesel kleen would be better in warmer climates, since it added more cetane boost - both formulas contain the same percentages of added lubricity...<br><br>Looks like I'll be switching to the diesel kleen stuff next jugfull... ;D ;D ;D

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I find this a very interesting thread.. and it makes a lot of since with the lower sulfur content/lower lubricity.. I run PS each tank in the winter and usually every other tank in the summer.. I may go to every tank now though..

BUT doesnt Dodge/Cummins say you shouldnt use/dont need an additive UNLESS it is a winterizer thru cummins..




What are your thoughts on warranty issues??
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1. The &quot;fuel experts&quot; insist that the lack of sulphur in the fuel isn't the problem, it's the PROCESS used by refiners to REDUCE the sulphur that creates reduced lubricity - yeah, I know, it's a fine line, but one we should be aware of, because all refiners apparently don't use the same refining process, so the degree of lost lubricity can be different from one refiner to another. I always cringe when some well-meaning owner who THINKS he is doing the right thing, states he uses a lubricity additive &quot;sometimes&quot;, or &quot;every other tankful&quot; - that's like playing russian roulette - how can you know WHICH tankfull really NEEDS the added lubricity? It's like only using a condom &quot;every other time&quot;... ;D

2. Cummins might not admit that we &quot;need&quot; a lubricity additive - but they ALSO won't publicly admit that the VP-44 is failing at an excessive rate, either - all for liability reasons - if they DID state the need for additional lubrication, OR the excessive failure rate of untreated pumps. it puts the responsibility and liability issue right at their front door - they aren't ABOUT to do that - but I think you'll find the vast majority of injection pump repair and service agents WILL recommend added lubricant formulas for virtually ALL types of pumps used on the Cummins, NOT just the VP-44!

3. I seriously doubt there is the SLIGHTEST potential warranty issue, as long as the instructions as to percentages of additives is followed within reason. I absolutely feel far safer WITH added lubricity than without it, and certainly plan to continue its use.