General Diesel Discussion Talk about general diesel engines (theory, etc.) If it's about diesel, and it doesn't fit anywhere else, then put it right in here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

gas or diesel

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 10:54 AM
  #1  
undecided's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
gas or diesel

alright, I am buying a new 2500 and don't know if i should get gas or diesel. I don't tow any big trailers, just fourwheelers for me and my friends and maybe a small fishing boat. This will also be my daily driver and I do alot of traveling, average 4,000 miles per month. I really like the fuel milage of the diesel and how many miles you can put on an engine. I am sure the hemi is up to what i tow, but don't know if it will last the miles. Any input will be appreciated.<br><br>Todd
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 10:57 AM
  #2  
bulthisl's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
From: Frankfort, Ky.
Re:gas or diesel

Diesel !!!!<br>Of course.<br><br>You csme to the wrong site to get any other answer. <br><br> Really I hear the Hemi's are good but #2 is the only way to go in my book.<br><br><br> : Eddie : 8)
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:03 AM
  #3  
BigBlue's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Re:gas or diesel

Gas or diesel? Hmmmmm........Let me think.<br><br>[move][glow=red, 2, 500]DIESEL!!!![/glow][/move]
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:09 AM
  #4  
SjLingenfelter's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,113
Likes: 0
From: Sugarland,College Station, Mason, TX
Re:gas or diesel

[glow=red, 2, 300][move]DIESEL[/move][/glow] Just get a DIESEL!
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:16 AM
  #5  
Commatoze's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,424
Likes: 0
From: Sturbridge, Taxachusetts
Re:gas or diesel

[quote author=SuperiorDiesel03 link=board=8;threadid=10613;start=0#101411 date=1044551385]<br>[glow=red, 2, 300][move]DIESEL[/move][/glow] Just get a DIESEL!<br>[/quote]<br><br>I agree. The Hemi is still just a gasoline engine that gets dismal fuel mileage. At nearly 50K a year, that gasoline engine won't last more than 3 or 4 years before you'll need to tear it down.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:21 AM
  #6  
DieselDaze's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,360
Likes: 5
From: MidWest
Re:gas or diesel

Well, first, your answers here may be just slightly biased as it is DIESELtruckresource.com.


The diesels usually cost a little more if your buying new. However, in terms of mileage/pulling-power ratio, you cant go wrong with a diesel.

Ive heard the Hemis are getting about 14 to 16 unloaded and drops when worked.
While the diesels (once broken in) will drop to around 15 when worked, and can get up to 20+ depending on gearing and drivers right foot.

Diesels are usually easier to maintain and generally go longer before maintainance... but parts can cost more.

Go Diesel!!!!



Rich
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:29 AM
  #7  
thatguy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
From: Lynchburg, VA
Re:gas or diesel

If money is not a problem.. get the diesel.. it will really help the resale of the truck down the road..<br><br>If you hate shelling out almost $5k for the diesel - you may have to put the pencil to the paper to see it if would be more economical in the long run - figure out your annual mileage - compare gas vs dsl mpg's - and then compare cost between gas and diesel.. see what you would spend a yr for both<br><br>when I first started looking i really wanted the diesel.. but hated the $4,600 expense.. BUT when i looked at the 1500 with the 5.7ish/350 cu inch motors that had listed MPG's of 11/13 on the window, i thought the diesel would be a cost saver.. I get 16.5 - a tad over 17 mpg just running around town - 15 to 15.5 towing compact tractor.. the best i got was 18.3 on a trip down the parkway doing about 40 mpg the entire time..<br><br>good luck
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 11:29 AM
  #8  
Lary Ellis (Top)'s Avatar
Admin Team Leader
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 15,514
Likes: 207
Re:gas or diesel

The Cummins Turbo Diesel is the best light truck engine built period.<br><br> What do you want to spend your money on?.........<br><br> The best?............<br><br> Or something inferior?<br><br>P.S. get the HO <br><br> I really don't know why they even offer the SO, you think some brainiac at Chrysler shouted out at a meeting and said &quot;While we are at it, let's offer the same thing with the engine goofed up enough to reduce the horsepower by 25%!&quot;
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 01:16 PM
  #9  
undecided's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 0
Likes: 0
Re:gas or diesel

ok, my question is why should I spend an extra $4000 when the hemi will do all that i ask it to do? What makes a diesel worth that much if i'm not towing or pulling very often?
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 01:23 PM
  #10  
bulthisl's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
From: Frankfort, Ky.
Re:gas or diesel

Not trying to be smart but go drive one.<br>And if you like to play with your toys.<br>Go find someones that has been BOMBED a little and drive or ride in it and there will be no question in your mind.<br><br><br> : Eddie : 8)
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 02:06 PM
  #11  
DieselDaze's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,360
Likes: 5
From: MidWest
Re:gas or diesel

[quote author=undecided link=board=8;threadid=10613;start=0#101496 date=1044558973]<br>ok, my question is why should I spend an extra $4000 when the hemi will do all that i ask it to do? What makes a diesel worth that much if i'm not towing or pulling very often?<br>[/quote]<br><br>...except pass a gas station! <br><br>Just kidding...<br><br>I dont know where you are financially, but if your gonna be making payments each month.. then buy which ever truck is going to make those payments worth it to you.<br>Go test drive both gas and Diesel (As SFtopSGT said... test drive the HO).<br>Compare the two and buy which ever truck that will make YOU happy.<br><br>Either way.. both will be good trucks if you take care of them.<br>Good luck.<br>Rich.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 02:30 PM
  #12  
Commatoze's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,424
Likes: 0
From: Sturbridge, Taxachusetts
Re:gas or diesel

With the mileage you do (48,000) I'd expect a saving of at least 1000 gallons of fuel per year. That alone would be enough to sway me over to a diesel.
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 03:02 PM
  #13  
TPilaske's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,395
Likes: 0
From: Flat Rock, MI
Re:gas or diesel

[quote author=Commatoze link=board=8;threadid=10613;start=0#101525 date=1044563421]<br>With the mileage you do (48,000) I'd expect a saving of at least 1000 gallons of fuel per year. That alone would be enough to sway me over to a diesel.<br>[/quote]<br><br>Exactly what I was looking at, where he stated that he drives an average of 4K miles a month. That would also be about an oil change a month on a gasser. You will save in fuel and maintenance costs no doubt! That would sway me to the diesel. <br><br>I did have a 2000 2500 V10. I know that probably get's worse gas mileage than the new HEMI, but probably not by much. I averaged 6 MPG towing with it. With the diesel (still not even broke in) I average about 14. My best empty (so far) MPG was a hair over 19. This summer, I bet it goes over 20. Might be a little bit more upfront, but it's worth it in the long run. Plus, the engine is going to outlast that gasser by a long shot. ;D<br><br>Tony
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 03:18 PM
  #14  
tool's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 1,524
Likes: 1
Re:gas or diesel

Just another thing to consider.....<br><br>Yes, the reports of the Hemi have been good. Everyone seems to like it. But it is a &quot;new&quot; motor and therefore unproven.<br><br>The 5.9 Cummins though? <br><br>The toughest engine ever offered in a pickup!<br> 8)
Reply
Old Feb 6, 2003 | 03:45 PM
  #15  
KC's Avatar
KC
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 199
Likes: 0
From: Michigan
Re:gas or diesel

I agree with the others, at 4000 miles per month you are going to run out of warrenty and run the engine into the ground possible before it is payed off! <br><br>Diesel is better at MPG, longer lasting (350,000 miles) and pulls and hauls more!<br><br>The extra money you send now will save you much more later!<br><br>Also the resale is higher on the CTD than any gas type engine!<br><br>KC
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:53 AM.