<br><br>Push Rod, I agree with you, but I'm deferring to what the Duramax owners are saying in their posts concerning these injectors. Must be the dealers feeding them some BS about where the injectors are coming from and why it takes weeks instead of days to receive them. Tell Scotty I said Hi.

 

Push Rod has solved the puzzle ;D. The injectors are made in Turkey and dem camels has a mighty long way to go to reach the good ole US of A. A month is probably pretty good for a two humper. <br><br>Just a little humor there boys!!

 

I trust cummins, Isusu and Navistar to produce good long lasting diesels, I don't trust the engineers at GM and Ford Who have to put their &quot;touch&quot; on the engines. I don't believe the dodge engineers have any say in how the Cummins is designed, If they did it wouldn't be a Cummins any longer, It would be the &quot;torquemaster turbo diesel&quot; The same as a Duramax is a joint Isuzu-GM venture and the Powerstroke is a navistar-ford venture.<br>This is the way I see things anyway.

 

Why is it when the other guys got an injector problem they're garbage, but when our KDP zaps the valve train (and reigning opinion seems to be it's inevitable unless fixed right now) it's just something you should have got to sooner? Seems to me the KDP should relegate the Cummins to the same unreliable status we tend to accord the others.<br> Lot's of guys seem to have friends with problems; funny how Luke S. hasn't had to deal with a bunch, and he's always impressed me as a straight up sort.<br> Another point; read our board. A lot of it is about problems. Obviously that is somewhat the purpose of it(Help me, it's broke, what do I do now?). But someone not a fan or not familiar could look through our posts and easily arrive at a blanket condemnation of the CTD.<br> Not saying all brands don't have their ills, but sometimes it seems to get blown out of proportion.<br> What I really want is a Cummins powered truck, let's let someone like Mack make the basic frame, let the military spec the running gear and let Honda run the assembly lines and QC program. Probably gonna loose the fuel economy though. And WTH, let Rolls or some of the Brit carriagemakers in to make it pretty.<br><br>I guess it's late at night again,<br>Rob

 

i would just like to say that generally the headgasket problems is BS. yes, some will fail, but they aren't dropping like flies like a lot of people have been saying they are. i don't like the mix of metals, but the gasket technology is supposedly up there to keep everything sealed. the injectors however are a common problem which sucks for anyone with a duramax.<br><br>every diesel motor has at least one major problem...<br><br>Tom

 

Blackboat, IMHO no one is ******* those guys because they have an injector problem. They get dogged because they have hammered their own on that web site for reporting these problems. On this site we don't get down on the owners for having a problem. We try to help them solve the problem, not hide it. The KDP, lift pump and other assorted problems are openly discussed. I rarely look on the Cheb site, but early on when someone had a problem, it was always requested that he provide a VIN number so that the problem could be verified by someone working at GM or a dealership. Why, because no one believed they could have a problem. We know we can have problems. The good thing about our trucks is we also know that we have control over repairing them. We don't have to go back to the dealership. Probably any diesel shop will work on a Cummins and they'll have parts in stock or can have them within a couple of days. Like.....injectors for instance.

 

Thanks for the compliment Blackboat. I appreciate it. I will always call it like it is. That you can count on. And truthfully, as it stands right now, we have had the same or less amounts of problems or complaints about Dmax's as we have had about Cummins. I have never had a Dmax with a head or head gasket problem come through our door, not saying it can't or won't happen, just saying it hasn't happened yet. But if it does you can bet I'll be right here talking about it, and if we have Cummins problems I'll be talking about that too. As far as Fords go, I've owned a few several years back, but I don't sell them now nor do I own any so I don't run my mouth about em too much 8)

 

Interesting read. I am a mopar guy, have had my 93 CTD since 94, bought it with 16,200 miles on it. It now has 200,000 miles on it. Still have not had one problem with the motor OF ANY KIND. What is a KDP? What are these other problems I am hearing about? <br><br>I am pulling the Getrag for the first time right now, so that is how I found this site, surfing for Cummins diesal info, I must say I like it. <br><br>I have had to do some &quot;routine&quot; stuff to my truck (brakes, u-joints, ate a wheel bearing up front) but NOTHING to the motor. I have towed a 12x55 mobile home. A 34 foot 18000lb boat on a 6000lb trailer. Gravel. Lots of Gravel. Camper. Race car. Have worked the DOG SNOT out of this truck, no problems with the motor, damned few with the truck. <br><br>Bro-in-law had both Duromax and powerstrokes so far, had trouble starting both of them in our winter up here ( I am in Alaska) and is now purchasing a 3rd gen used Cummins. My brother and Dad also owned cummins. Both are diesal mechanics for the guv-ment. They have worked on everything from Hummers to Sus-V mercedes diesal. They like the cummins most too.

 

My take on this.<br>My first diesel was an 84 Blazer with a 6.2. It was OK, and it could pull, just not fast. And it was hell on transmissions.<br><br>GM screwed up the future of their diesels, not so much with that engine, but with that touchy-feely auto tranny.<br><br>When I did a tranny rebuild, I specified that the new one be set up for a diesels performance curves. From GM, it was not.<br><br>Night and Day difference, with no changes to the engine. It ran for nearly a quarter of a million miles, then threw bearing. I woulda put a kit in it, except the body was so full of cancer that I just got this Dodge.<br><br>Not that I am saying a 6.2 is the equal of a Cummins, by no means. But it worked for me for a long time.<br><br>The other thing I think that keeps Ford and GM in the V8 niche is marketing. For many years automakers built these inline sixes that were so gutless they could not get out of their own way. Dad had two, a 144 cu in Ford, and a 200 cu. in Ford, and Jeez....Good on gas, but dogs on the highway.<br><br>For &quot;power&quot; you always turned to a V8. <br><br>I think a lot of folks have a misconception of how an inline six CAN work, and GM/Ford want to market on that. Or are afraid of what would happen...???<br><br><br>Just my .02<br>

 

Gear poet, I hate to call somebody on something like this but that story you told at the bottom of your last post is a great one. Do you really expect me to believe that? ??? &gt;

 

[quote author=Luke S link=board=8;threadid=9245;start=30#93205 date=1042830422]<br>Gear poet, I hate to call somebody on something like this but that story you told at the bottom of your last post is a great one. Do you really expect me to believe that? ??? &gt;<br>[/quote]<br><br>Reason #2 to carry a camera in your truck at all times.<br><br>Reason #1, sadly, is to document an accident if you're in one.<br><br><br>phox

 

[quote author=mymaur link=board=8;threadid=9245;start=15#89520 date=1041979704]<br>I wish Dodge would put the CTD in their Ram Van. [/quote]<br><br>Search on the words &quot;Sprinter Van&quot;, or go to a White Freightliner site. Dodge will be distributing them next year. Mercedes engine and tranny. In Europe, you can get 4WD, but in this market who knows?<br><br>All claims are &quot;over 20 mpg&quot;, one guy swears he's getting 30 mpg at 65 mph.

 

[quote author=HC link=board=8;threadid=9245;start=30#93422 date=1042898567]<br>[quote author=mymaur link=board=8;threadid=9245;start=15#89520 date=1041979704]<br>I wish Dodge would put the CTD in their Ram Van. [/quote]<br><br>Search on the words &quot;Sprinter Van&quot;, or go to a White Freightliner site. Dodge will be distributing them next year. Mercedes engine and tranny. In Europe, you can get 4WD, but in this market who knows?<br><br>All claims are &quot;over 20 mpg&quot;, one guy swears he's getting 30 mpg at 65 mph.<br>[/quote]<br><br>The last full size Dodge van I saw did not have a frame!<br><br>KC

 

[quote author=Tackdriver link=board=8;threadid=9245;start=30#92952 date=1042769472]<br><br>I think a lot of folks have a misconception of how an inline six CAN work, and GM/Ford want to market on that. Or are afraid of what would happen...???<br><br><br>Just my .02<br><br>[/quote]<br><br>I was a Ford inline fan before I moved up to a diesel (PSD). The 300/6 was a good match for light hauling. Had an 82 F250 and a 92 F150. The 92 with injection was great, decent power, great mpg and durability. Now I'm back to an inline!