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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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As soon as I get over the sticker shock of the LBZ Duramax the dodge will be remanded to play toy/sled puller. I don't think there is any comparison between the two trucks. The dodge I have now is shaking itself apart, too much engine for the rest of the truck. I like the engine and solid fron axle but that is about it. My cousin has a performance shop and has worked on a couple of LBZs. Those new engines will flat out haul the mail. I'm not much on the "stealth" look of the Chevy but then again, thats why I'm looking for a GMC.
Obviously you aren't comparing apples to apples.

Yeah I did go from a Duramax GM to a Dodge Cummins. I agree... no comparison. I like the truck I own now over the half car half truck I used to own. My Dodge runs great.. in the 14's with just a box. I don't need to spend $10,000 to gain another second. Face it, that's about what you spend to get into the thirteens (low). $7000 on trans, $3000 on the rest. Both the Dodge and the Dmax "Haul the mail" as you put it if you dump $10,000 into them. Remember... Cummins is common rail now with all the options Dmax has. It may not have the "edge" but you can have it

Still waiting for my Third Gen Dodge to start shaking, let alone shake itself apart
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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BTW when I first got my Dmax back in 2001 I thought it was the greatest thing and when I heard it run during the special introductions before it went on sale for the first time I was mesmerized. I had to have it. I bragged about all the great innovations and the Allison.

I'm not bragging anymore and no longer brand loyal. They all have goods and bads. It's what you like and what you expect from a diesel pickup. I'm more geared towards an offroad type truck so the GM kinda falls out of my sights. I let that slide because I though the Dmax was going to be THE diesel along with the Allison. If I didn't have so many things bug me with it I probably would still be driving one.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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may i say "to each his own" as stated we all have our motivation for owning what we own , some are about power. some are about ride , ect ect. i was a fleet mech. for a dozen years and the co. bought and even bunch of the big three. worked on them all old and new from cars to diesel trucks. each of us has our experience or relate to a friends bad or good experience. spent many weeks at all of there class from gm , dodge, ford factory tech. schools. you ought to hear the stories that come in there about weird quirks. gm would on occasion buy back the vehical and bring it to the school for them to trouble shoot.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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I know of many dodge cummins working regular loads in excess of 18,000# for many years with 300k plus. When I see D-max pass that test with the percentage that cummins truck do, I will consider D-max. Until then I will stick with the ol TP (tested and proven) diesel. After all 150,000 is the break in period right?
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by SSweeney
After all 150,000 is the break in period right?
Yea 150,000 is the Cummins breakin period, 150,000 is the Dmax break... period
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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with any performance expectations, you have to consider the possibility of breaking something. I own a performance shop, so breaking things by pushing them to or past their limits is normal to me. Thats what i like to do, and it's what i'm good at. IF i had the dinero to buy a Dmax, i'd have the extra couple hundred to swap it to a SFA, and get rid of the IFS. I did it to my 4x4 s-10, wouldn't be no different to a fullsize. Yes i favor GM's, but i'm open to anything that's fast, (not those 16second POS imports). I personally like the new (not the brand new, guess the stealth fighter is what ya'll call it?) style on the front end of the GM, i hate the huge headlights of the new dodges.

As for the sledpulls, it don't matter what trans it's running, which engine it is, to me. It's how the combo works together that puts the truck at the finish line, if the ferds around here would ever make it past the 150' mark, i'd probably have more respect there also. Headgaskets, injectors, they get replaced when you build a cummin's also. If you haven't you will. Same goes with gassers, you can't build the hell outta a motor, and expect to use stock headgaskets/bolts.

My mentality is there's a difference between a daily driven/ play truck, than there is a full on pulling truck/drag truck. Same with my car. Yea it's cool to watch a fully tubbed caged camaro/mustang click off a 7sec pass, but it goes home on a trailer, and stays in a garage till it goes to the track again. Same with the full time pulling trucks, yea there all mainly intl's or cummin's, but i'm not interested in that stuff either, (besides the huge amounts of power and black smoke). The dmax's that i watch outpull the cummin's and ford's at the truck pulls, are daily driven and not full purpose built pulling machines. That's what i'm interested in, and right now the DMax is on top of that game around here. IF i had the cash, i'd have one. But my price range is the mid 90's dodges, and in that time period, it IS the only motor to have. After rebuilding the trans, and the engine parts i've got in my current truck, i could've bought a box and a clutch for a manually trannied Dmax. And big white is just now nearing the power levels of the new trucks!

PS, that truck i mentioned that blew me away with a trailer, his only problem is the limp mode. he's had the same parts on it since day one, beats it the same since day one, and still owns it with 150k miles, using it daily with his landscaping business.
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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You all keep comparing non common rail Cummins to the new Dmax. What gives?
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Old Jan 8, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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Hoot,
See your back at it again. How long before your banned on this site.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 04:20 AM
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Hoot,
See your back at it again. How long before your banned on this site.
I see you just joined and no signature. I hope not for my sake.

Banned for what? I guess if I switch to Ford and badmouth Dodge?

What are you driving these days?
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 05:08 AM
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ill stick with my cummins powered dodge, i have no interest in owning a dmax in my lifetime, I believe that the cummins is the strongest there is of the big 3
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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This is what my Duramax injector lines looked like at about 50,000 miles or so AFTER I cleaned them up. Granted the corrosion is outside of the fuel stream but the garbage falls all over the entry hole of the injector when you disconnect it.





Before cleaning.... BTW we chucked them.




This is the injector input nipple...

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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hoot
I saw a Dmax pulling a trailer down the highway and the front end was bouncing like it was on a trampolene. The highway was raised and had those humps every so often. The truck could not control the bouncing.
I doubt the bouncing front end has to anything to do with suspension design. It has more to do with some yahoo overloading the truck. I see people driving all three makes of pickups pulling trailers that are way too big for the truck. Some folks think because they have a diesel badge on the side of the truck that they now own a class 8 tractor. I don't care if these morons endanger themselves because natural selection should eliminate them from the gene pool. I do take issue with the danger they pose to the rest of the motoring public.

Back to the original post, I'm pleased with my Duramax after 23k miles. It's been very smooth and dependable. No trouble from the flywheel yet either. I let a guy here at work drive it before he bought his Dodge just because it's so tough to find a manual equipped Duramax. He liked it, but felt the Dodge had a little more grunt off the line and went that route. He's had no complaints with it and seems to like the G56 tranny.
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Old Jan 9, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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years ago i was beside a 2nd gen dodge three quarter ton on some of the concrete I-5 hwy he was hauling a 12 ft camper that went over the cab and i think the trailer he was pulling had a good size boat. he must of been driving at just the right speed because every ten seconds the back of the cab to camper clearence was changing by two inches and he looked none aware. but after seeing what my brother puts his one ton dually 2nd gen thru i am impressed. no frame cracks.
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 01:13 AM
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yet another reason to buy a cummins, Ive heard & still hear the injectors gone bad ford & dmax stories
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Old Jan 10, 2007 | 07:33 PM
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On the other hand it's a little more "glitchy" which was my experience. Strange things happen that are hard to get fixed..

like when trees fall on them
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