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Diesel Grand Cherokee making a return next year...

Old Jan 6, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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Diesel Grand Cherokee making a return next year...

Might be a nice ride for the wife:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...n=awdailydrive


Since the Dirt-rango is based on the GC, it would make sense to stick one in there too
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SOhappy
Might be a nice ride for the wife:

http://www.autoweek.com/article/2012...n=awdailydrive


Since the Dirt-rango is based on the GC, it would make sense to stick one in there too
Yep, too bad they didn't say which engine was going in there. In 2013 the Cruze will have the small 4cyl. Diesel as well, and initial word is the redesigned 2014 Colorado will offer both the 2.5 and the 2.8 GM world spec 4 cyl diesels.

I will say it again, make sure they are well north of 30 MPG and I am interested.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 04:02 PM
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The wife and I went looking at the GC a couple of weeks ago. Found one we liked but dealer didnt want to play ball. Walked away. Glad I did now. Looks like its gonna be a 3.0 V6

http://wot.motortrend.com/chrysler-c...it-153707.html
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 05:50 PM
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My parents bought a 2008 3.0L diesel grand cherokee brand new and aside from a couple of dipstick o-rings leaking (warranty) its been a flawless vehicle. The highest fuel economy we've seen with it is 30mpg hand calculated, usually in the mid to high 20s. Its a pretty cool engine, very quiet and loads of power. Stomp on it from a dead stop and about half a second later the turbo spools and the all wheel drive launches you

Bring on the smaller diesels!
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 06:52 PM
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Who makes that lil 3.0 diesel?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:12 PM
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Durango with a Diesel

I hope this happens!

http://wot.motortrend.com/dodge-dura...-s-156683.html
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake Clark
Who makes that lil 3.0 diesel?

http://www.worldcarfans.com/11102213...ced-for-europe

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/dettaglio.jsp?id=9
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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Thank Cope

They any good?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake Clark
Who makes that lil 3.0 diesel?
Same folks that make the 2.8L I4 in my day driver Liberty. VM Motori of Italy makes very good engines. Not unlike the Ram CTD, the Liberty has more issues than the engine in it. Good enough for me, and it came from TX so no rust issues. The VM engine is fairly common in Europe between GM and Fiat products. They've had 2.5 and 2.8s in Jeeps in Europe for years.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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Same folks that make the 2.8L I4 in my day driver Liberty. VM Motori of Italy makes very good engines. Not unlike the Ram CTD, the Liberty has more issues than the engine in it. Good enough for me, and it came from TX so no rust issues. The VM engine is fairly common in Europe between GM and Fiat products. They've had 2.5 and 2.8s in Jeeps in Europe for years.
Sweet. I can see one of these in under the carport sometime next year. Plus if it gets anywhere close to 28 Ill be ecstatic.
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:23 PM
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any idea what the emissions stuff will be like? urea?
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Blake Clark
Sweet. I can see one of these in under the carport sometime next year.
And the first one in the US that has deleted emissions .
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Old Jan 14, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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And the first one in the US that has deleted emissions .
I can see myself explaining that one to the wife....



"Baby, I need you to understand this. The carburizing atomizer has gone out and its not covered under the flux capacitors warranty. But... but... but... Hear me out now.... I can fix it. It might blow a bit of black smoke, but trust me. You'll be the first one in line to drop the kiddo off at school!"
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Old Jan 19, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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And the first one in the US that has deleted emissions .
According to allpar's article http://www.allpar.com/mopar/V6/VM-RA-diesel.html much of the "emissions" is built into the fuel system. Oh, and good luck disabling the EGR. Sounds easier said than done, according to this article.

Cast-iron exhaust manifolds funnel exhaust to a close-coupled diesel oxidation (SiMoCr cast iron) catalyst and standard diesel particulate filter. Euro 5 emissions are met through an exhaust-gas recirculation (EGR) system that includes an EGR valve with DC motor and a high-performance EGR cooler with bypass valve. Each cylinder has a central direct injector with cooled EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) as an integral part of the cylinder heads. The vacuum pump is incorporated into one of the camshafts for greater efficiency.
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Old Jan 20, 2012 | 04:45 AM
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Yeah, that was pretty much a ribbing on me for messing so much with the 6.7 Bluetec systems. Someone would have to make a programmer that would allow the hardware to be removed. Or a lot of experimenting with sims and sensors and such.

If I get one of these for the wife, it will stay stock, with extended warranty purchases. That way when Im away, and if something happens, the dealer can fix it.
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