General Diesel Discussion Talk about general diesel engines (theory, etc.) If it's about diesel, and it doesn't fit anywhere else, then put it right in here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Cummins powered Suburban.

Old Mar 27, 2007 | 05:46 PM
  #1  
masterphreak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 218
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, IN
Cummins powered Suburban.

Ok, here is my plan. I want to take a 1 ton suburban and drop in a 12 valve cummins. The plan is to make the ultimate rafting tow vehicle. My current truck works just fine for this but is limited on passenger space. Plus I don't wanna mess up my nice leather seats with wet friends after a day on the river. Anyone ever done this conversion or know of someone who has?
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 05:50 PM
  #2  
dieselJon's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,958
Likes: 1
From: Dixon, IL
um there is no such thing as a 1 ton suburban unless you have put a suburban body on a 1 ton frame. I know a guy that put the 1 ton badging on a suburban and when he sold it the guy want almost double because it had that badging! The guy laughed and said he just put it on and that it was really a 3/4 ton. He ended up buying the suburban 5 years later when a guy advertised a 1 ton suburban!

Just so ya know

Jon
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 06:07 PM
  #3  
B-MAN's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 330
Likes: 0
From: Beaumont Alberta Canada
My Grandfather had a Cummins put in his Suburban back in 98, (His Airstream towrig)took it to a shop in OHIO that specialized in diesel swaps,...His suburban is a 3500, about a 96 or so with a solid front axle...
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 06:09 PM
  #4  
masterphreak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 218
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, IN
Ok thanks for the info. I wasn't sure that they made a 1 ton. I'm sure the 3/4 model would work just fine. I wish that I could have saved my wrecked '03, that would have been a perfect frame to put a suburban body on.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 06:27 PM
  #5  
SOhappy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,280
Likes: 10
From: Udaho
Originally Posted by masterphreak
Ok thanks for the info. I wasn't sure that they made a 1 ton. I'm sure the 3/4 model would work just fine. I wish that I could have saved my wrecked '03, that would have been a perfect frame to put a suburban body on.
Actually, my last 'Burb was a '93 GMC 2500 with a 454, but when I went to do the rear brakes darned if if didn't have a 1-ton SRW (of course) rear end! From the factory I'm sure. Always wondered why that stack of leaf springs looked so thick. I could've dualed it out if I wanted to, it had the right hubs. Someone here in my town has done that to thiers- looks very strange.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure that because of all the extra weight from passengers, the SUV body etc. that all 2500 'Burbs would have to have a 1-ton rear end. Of course, that doesn't make it a "1-ton", but it helps get the GVWR up.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 08:52 PM
  #6  
catmandoo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
the suburbans are kindof weird in that way,i've had both,the ones with the 8 lug wheels and the light rear ends,and the ones with 8 lugs and the full floating rear ends.easiest way to tell is pop the hub cap off and see if it has the full floating hub stickin out at ya.
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2007 | 10:26 PM
  #7  
steelblitzkrieg's Avatar
DTR Detective
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,602
Likes: 10
From: Antioch, Ca
I see Dually Suburbans all the time out here in Cali.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:11 AM
  #8  
patdaly's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 8,372
Likes: 172
From: Streator Illinois
Go over on the TDR board, look under Cummins conversions and there is a multipage thread about converting a Suburban, absolutely beautiful work.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:03 AM
  #9  
masterphreak's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 218
Likes: 2
From: Columbus, IN
Thx for all the replies so far. I hope to be able to get started on the project this summer. I will keep everyone posted on the progress.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:52 PM
  #10  
SOhappy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 2,280
Likes: 10
From: Udaho
Kinda' off topic but I still can't figure out why GM hasn't put duramaxes in Suburbans yet....seems like they'd sell like hotcakes.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:00 PM
  #11  
Ddge6spdRam's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Amity,Me
Originally Posted by B-MAN
My Grandfather had a Cummins put in his Suburban back in 98, (His Airstream towrig)took it to a shop in OHIO that specialized in diesel swaps,...His suburban is a 3500, about a 96 or so with a solid front axle...
Did he have the solid front axle swapped in? Chevy stopped putting SFA in the K5's,3500 CC & Suburbans in 91. Everything else went to IFS in 88. They never had a 3500 'Burban,my mom's 1500 'Burban has a 6 lug rear axle,but a 1500hd suspension. Her's is a 97, not even the 3500 DRW trucks had a SFA in 96.
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 09:10 PM
  #12  
nfsommer's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 504
Likes: 0
From: Chi
if gm put the duramax in a suburban and took aam's solid 9.25 axle id sell my truck yesterday!
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2007 | 11:32 PM
  #13  
1-5-3-6-2-4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 0
From: Okotoks AB
Originally Posted by jwooden
Kinda' off topic but I still can't figure out why GM hasn't put duramaxes in Suburbans yet....seems like they'd sell like hotcakes.
the duramax and allison didn't fit. and to change the frame/floorpan around the tranny area was clearly too much money for GM.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:35 AM
  #14  
duratothemax's Avatar
Banned
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 452
Likes: 0
From: CT
Originally Posted by DEMON
the duramax and allison didn't fit. and to change the frame/floorpan around the tranny area was clearly too much money for GM.
it was also "clearly" not feasible because of safety issues too. Adding the requied 3" body raise would have produced unexpected stability and rollover issues as well, something that doesnt go well with a vehicle under 8600lbs GVWR (subject to many more safety laws, etc than HD vehicles).

Im not disagreeing, a duramax suburban would be SWEET, I would definetly drive one any day, but the truth is, GM is selling the dmax in the trucks faster than they can make them. And I know its SUPER hard to beleive because all of us love diesel trucks and cant possibly understand how someone could buy something and not check the "diesel" option, but they would not have sold many dmax suburbans if they were made. What are 90% of suburban drivers? Soccer moms with big families. Do they care what engine their suburban has? The other 10% are the people with 3/4 ton burbans who actually tow, yeah, they'd probably like a diesel, but is it worth investing TONS AND TONS of money and R&D to please that small group of 10%? Nobody can seem to look at things from a company's own point of view. Seiously, its not like GM is havning a hard time selling Suburbans the way they are right now (without a diesel).....

just my oppinion..

ben
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:51 AM
  #15  
1-5-3-6-2-4's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,142
Likes: 0
From: Okotoks AB
Originally Posted by duratothemax
it was also "clearly" not feasible because of safety issues too. Adding the requied 3" body raise would have produced unexpected stability and rollover issues as well, something that doesnt go well with a vehicle under 8600lbs GVWR (subject to many more safety laws, etc than HD vehicles).
you honestly think a 3" body lift would cause a subruban to rollover?
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:33 AM.