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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lastchance
Yea a set of doubles is like backin a 4 wheel wagon,
that would be impressive to see triples being backed.

i have good days and bad days backing one trailer!
Backing a set of doubles IS backing a four wheel wagon on the back of a semi. Triples would be another four wheel wagon on the back of that.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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You have my vote every dump i ever backed on around here was so tight you better get it right the first time with one wagon i couldn't imagine backing doubles on a dump because as is they are very tight (not alot of room for mistakes)!!!

and there has been a few trucks lost around here on a dump, raising it too high and the whole deal falling over backwards in to the hopper,

i remember as a kid ridding to the chip yard with a guy and he actually let me ride up with the dump talk about an experience you dont want to ever do again it was almost like preparing to go to the moon!!!!!!LOL
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lastchance
You have my vote every dump i ever backed on around here was so tight you better get it right the first time with one wagon i couldn't imagine backing doubles on a dump because as is they are very tight (not alot of room for mistakes)!!!

and there has been a few trucks lost around here on a dump, raising it too high and the whole deal falling over backwards in to the hopper,

i remember as a kid ridding to the chip yard with a guy and he actually let me ride up with the dump talk about an experience you dont want to ever do again it was almost like preparing to go to the moon!!!!!!LOL
Yep, not quite level, hit the drop lever and hope it drops faster than it goes over sideways Used to deliver wet beach sand to Ryan Cement in Brooklyn with a 53 yard box. With wet sand the box has to be over half way up before it starts coming out, lot of fun.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 01:31 PM
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sounds just like unloading chips to the paper mill it goes almost to the top before she lets loose man what a shake when it does turn loose, like you said side to side shaking.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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I started in a B61 quad box. Put over a million miles on a 238 cornbinder. Mentioned earlier, a v12 detroit, yeah all 2 1/2 mpg if run hard. Will pass anything but a fuel stop. Truck I always drewled over but never had the funds to build, a small fleet owner in Florance Alabama was purchasing KW glider kits and installing v12/92 ta engines. First time I saw one was climhing El Cahon empty in a 6v92, he blew my doors off fully loaded with cast iron pipe. They were quite a machine, over 650 hp.

I really like the classic trucks, but my needle nose Freightliner with a condo cab gets 1 to 2 mpg better than the classic. Folks, I am out here to make a living first, looks second. But then I don't rough it either, I am sitting here with the heat pump on, watching the 27 inch high def tv and will later get a steak out of the freezer and cook dinner. And I still get 7 1/2 mpg. Yeah, and for internet, a cingular air card, fantastic.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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10-4 driver get'r'done in the truck stop!
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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In many ways I envy you guys. And in a few ways I don't.

Gotta admit that classic KWs, Petes, Freightliners and even Internationals look better than needle nose bar of soap stuff. But as an O/O I'd want the slickest most efficient truck I could lay my hands on, sorta like my '03!
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 08:18 AM
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I want down a man for whatever his likes are because that is what make this world go round!!!
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Haulin_in_Dixie
to my knowledge a B train is not legal in the US, only Canada. They should be because they can be backed as you say. A C train well ok, but again are they US legal? An A train.... yeah as you say, backed perfectly straight until the dolly takes off at an angle. For all practical purposes they can't be backed without the dolly being tied off as in a C train.
B trains are legal in OR and WA. I think ID and MT also but not sure about that. I think we have used some over there. The company I work for has several sets. Towed them once or twice myself. They tow really well, almost like a semi. You see the Canadians on I-5 all the time with them. My company has (had) quite a # of C trains. Had because they seem to be eliminating doubles and going mostly with 53 footers now. Light weight is a lot less so they are using the doubles mostly for shavings and not the heavier stuff that you can't cube out..

http://www.walshtruckingco.com/services.php

Here are some pictures. The top rig is my brother's. Double stack Mack, no shack on the back. The third one down is a B train. They're pretty common here.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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Yeah interesting. We can pull a 57 foot trailer here in Alabama, but there is no provision for the B train. I guess because of the front trailer length. We can only do 28 and 28. I am surprised that there does not seem to be any stinger combos such as car haulers use on a semi. It would be the ultimate in high cube.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:01 PM
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Not sure I've ever seen a 57'

Nowadays if it's less than 53' it's unusual unless 2x28' doubles.

I saw a rather worn looking white 2nd gen QC with a sleeper behind the cab and a heck of a flatbed trailer at the Champion Truck Stop just south of Shepherd, TX.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave
Not sure I've ever seen a 57'

Nowadays if it's less than 53' it's unusual unless 2x28' doubles.

I saw a rather worn looking white 2nd gen QC with a sleeper behind the cab and a heck of a flatbed trailer at the Champion Truck Stop just south of Shepherd, TX.
I know in NC that 57 deal is out unless you buy a permit every year and then i dont know to much about it.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 06:52 PM
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the 57s are out there, most of the time illegal on length. When I bought the 53 foot reefer, I almost bought a 57 out of Mississippi, it went before I could see it and make a deal. He had two of them, too long for Mississippi. A lot of high fifth wheel car haulers here haul at 55 to 60 feet long with the extensions out. Stingers are limited to 75 feet long but I am a tad over 75 empty and then hang a couple of cars out the back. It seems that no one is looking around here.... but then there is Ohio
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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OR limits for single trailer is 53' while WA is 56. I work from the Troutdale yard in OR so usually have a 53 when pulling a semi but sometimes a 48 as some dumps and highways are only allowed the shorter trailers. I have pulled a 56 and they had one haul coming out of Northern WA a little ways into OR using 56's until somebody got nabbed. The A train doubles are 32' trailers with 68' from the front of the front box to the rear of the back box. They did have some old sets of 28 footers but the dolly tongue was about 10' long.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Haulin_in_Dixie
the 57s are out there, most of the time illegal on length. When I bought the 53 foot reefer, I almost bought a 57 out of Mississippi, it went before I could see it and make a deal. He had two of them, too long for Mississippi. A lot of high fifth wheel car haulers here haul at 55 to 60 feet long with the extensions out. Stingers are limited to 75 feet long but I am a tad over 75 empty and then hang a couple of cars out the back. It seems that no one is looking around here.... but then there is Ohio
Man this site was going good until the mention of the Buckeye State!!
that is a whole different ball game up there bunch of communist!
not to mention that is the truck hater state!
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