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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:11 PM
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biodiesel?

Anyone?

I don't see much chit-chat about it here.

I make quite a bit of fuel.. a few hundred gallons a week..

I'm happy to answer any questions and offer advice.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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here:

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...play.php?f=110
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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how safe is it? What concentration do you make it? What are the risks/benefits?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Could I run it in my 92 (rubber wise)

I also make roughly 100 gallons of the stuff, in every 2 weeks.
I make it 100%, and my Dads 98 Chevy 6.5 loves it. Only issues we have ever had were clogged fuel lines at first, and dirty fuel filters.

Just wondering if the 92 Rubber would take it?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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One of my customers has a 93 dodge .. 12 valve. He's been running it straight B100 for the last year.. (mixing when it gets to cold).

No reported problems as of yet. in fact, I have not even had a plugged fuel filter reported to me. I'm beginning to think its a myth or maybe people really are following my instructions when I tell them to change it sometime within two or three tank fulls. Some how I doubt it.

Benefits of biodiesel? Unlike petro oil an easier question to answer would be "problems of biodiesel"..
Biodiesel has so many benefits it takes to long to discuss.

Easier to talk about the problems...
A. Cold weather
B. NOx emmissions (not an unsolveable problem)
C. Homeowner safety if producing.

Benefits
Helps prevent Global warming
Gives everyone Oil independence
Creates new industry and jobs
Good for Farmers
Good for environment
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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I buy it whenever I get to the city and I have run it in my '92 from B20 to B99. I've had no problems, and no loss in mileage, and no fuel filter issues. I keep meaning to make my own, but have too much going on right now to build the reactor.

I have a neighbor who has run a bunch of B99 through his VW quantum too, and also reported no problems.

Smells great, and from what I've heard anyway, it would help increase the lubricity of the ULSD fuels.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Murphy2000
Anyone?

I don't see much chit-chat about it here.

I make quite a bit of fuel.. a few hundred gallons a week..

I'm happy to answer any questions and offer advice.

If I wanted to run some B50 or better through my '01 TDI would I need to make any mods to the fuel system? How about my '01 CTD? Do you have a poor man's reactor plan that can be made for cheap?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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here's a link to a great site with plans for a water heater based reactor. no need to spend thousands on the prefab plastic tank kits. You should be able to put one of these together for cheap.

http://www.localb100.com/

there are more biodisel links at my links page, near the bottom of the list:

http://www.redalderranch.com/links.html
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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Hey Murphy2000 Welcome to the DTR!
Are you by any chance from Maryland?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I've been running Canola based Bio in concentrations up to 80%. No ill effects, just a really clean fuel system and some loss in power. But when I can buy it a nearly 50% the price of regular pumped diesel who cares? I have been running more petrol lately with some cooler weather but was running around 10-20% near 0°F. I too am seriously looking at setting up the system in the garage.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
I've been running Canola based Bio in concentrations up to 80%. No ill effects, just a really clean fuel system and some loss in power. But when I can buy it a nearly 50% the price of regular pumped diesel who cares? I have been running more petrol lately with some cooler weather but was running around 10-20% near 0°F. I too am seriously looking at setting up the system in the garage.

The cost of purchasing the bio is interesting, here where I am finding B20 it is 10 cents a gallon higher than straight petro diesel. You would think (or is it hope) that the savings would trickle down. Safeway grocery stations have just started selling bio at their stations but I don't know the grade or the cost as there isn't a station close by that I can check. I only pass one about one time a month.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hamilton71801
If I wanted to run some B50 or better through my '01 TDI would I need to make any mods to the fuel system? How about my '01 CTD? Do you have a poor man's reactor plan that can be made for cheap?

While I am not specifically familiar with your vehicle, I have biodiesel running in many many different engines. You should be able to put straight B100 in that without problems. Most people find it a little easier to swallow by starting out at lower blends.. Even I started that way for fear of screwing up my engine(s).. 10%, no difference.. 25%.. engine sounding smoother, B100.. engine real smooth, exhaust smells like burned popcorn, engine starts smoother too.

Poor mans reactor plan? That's funny. That's exactly how I built mine.. I used poor mans materials to do the job. A $10 metal 55-gallon drum and some of the right hardware and you can have a killer reactor and processor set up.

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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by woodrat
here's a link to a great site with plans for a water heater based reactor. no need to spend thousands on the prefab plastic tank kits. You should be able to put one of these together for cheap.

http://www.localb100.com/

there are more biodiesel links at my links page, near the bottom of the list:

http://www.redalderranch.com/links.html
The water heater based reactor is called an "appleseed". It was invented by a girl called Maria Altovert (online handle girlmark).. you can goggle her or wikipedia too.. (www.girlmark.com).
The appleseed is a very well built biodiesel reactor. It is one of the safest designs available and one of the cheapest to build.

But there is a flaw.. Because of the conical bottom and the location of the drain port, it never completely drains all the way.. Not a problem usually but if you do a 5% prewash technique, the excess water at the bottom that never drains can cause a problem later. If you don't use the 5% method, your fuel will take twice as long to wash and polish.. It will still be the same fuel but takes longer to finish off.

That said, the appleseed starts to fall off when it comes to larger volumes. There's a big difference in purchasing a water heater that is 40 gallons and in everyones garbage and purchasing something 60 or 100 gallons in size. In addition, you'll find out that a 40 gallon water heater is only 37 gallons in reality. hey,, advertisers like to BS people..

PLEASE READ THIS PART PLEASE READ THIS PART
Never EVER Repeat: NEVER EVER use a plastic tank as a biodiesel reactor vessel. This is a dangerous and quite frankly STUPID thing to do. Hello? YOUR MAKING FUEL. Plastic tanks don't go well with hot oil, explosive methanol vapors and caustic chemicals. It's a dangerous mix and it should be done in a steel tank.
If anyone is interested, I can post photos of burned plastic biodiesel processors. Plastic tanks BURN HOMES.


Plastic tanks ARE ok for wash tanks. No problems there. You can also use them for drying tanks. Just never use for a reactor vessel.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by scottsjeeprolet
Hey Murphy2000 Welcome to the DTR!
Are you by any chance from Maryland?
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
I've been running Canola based Bio in concentrations up to 80%. No ill effects, just a really clean fuel system and some loss in power. But when I can buy it a nearly 50% the price of regular pumped diesel who cares? I have been running more petrol lately with some cooler weather but was running around 10-20% near 0°F. I too am seriously looking at setting up the system in the garage.
Sweet !!!!!!! Your story is the same thing I always here.. Good stuff, no problems. Once people get over the initial fear, they are hooked!!

Please do not set up a biodiesel processor in any attached garage.

Biodiesel processors are like fire places. If you take proper precautions and practice proper safety, its a very safe operation. Get careless, be stupid and get lazy and just like a fire place, it will reach out and bite you if your luck is bad.

Do things right and you will love the way you get fuel.. There's nothing better than driving home to fill up the tank...
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