Bad EBay Deal
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Bad EBay Deal
I recently bought a 47RH tranny off EBay that was advertised as being DTT- built. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
When it arrived I called DTT for information on it and discovered it is not a DTT transmission. (DTT knew immediately it wasn't their torque converter since theirs have drain plugs, and other evidence presented when the pan was removed.) So now I have a PayPal Claim pending.
I have a number of questions I hope some of you fellows can help me with. Does anyone know anything about the seller - he's in Adairsville, Georgia. Does anyone know whose truck he parted out? He claims he bought a truck that had a cab fire and that's where the tranny came from. On the day he auctioned the tranny, he also auctioned a number of other items from this truck, including a twin turbo setup. Does any of this look or sound familiar to anyone? Blacksdieselperformance couldn't help me contact the former owner of the truck, but said he was from Maryland not Adairsville, but I don't trust what he says. I believe blacksdieselperformance doesn't want me to contact the former truck owner because he might tell me that there never was a DTT tranny in his truck, and blacksdieselperformance's defense is claiming that the seller told him that the tranny was DTT built. That's not a good defense, anyway, since he is responsible for his auction wording, but it would look really bad if he purposely misrepresented his product. Thanks in advance for any help.
Here are a few pictures of the torque converter, perhaps someone can help identify who made it: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
When it arrived I called DTT for information on it and discovered it is not a DTT transmission. (DTT knew immediately it wasn't their torque converter since theirs have drain plugs, and other evidence presented when the pan was removed.) So now I have a PayPal Claim pending.
I have a number of questions I hope some of you fellows can help me with. Does anyone know anything about the seller - he's in Adairsville, Georgia. Does anyone know whose truck he parted out? He claims he bought a truck that had a cab fire and that's where the tranny came from. On the day he auctioned the tranny, he also auctioned a number of other items from this truck, including a twin turbo setup. Does any of this look or sound familiar to anyone? Blacksdieselperformance couldn't help me contact the former owner of the truck, but said he was from Maryland not Adairsville, but I don't trust what he says. I believe blacksdieselperformance doesn't want me to contact the former truck owner because he might tell me that there never was a DTT tranny in his truck, and blacksdieselperformance's defense is claiming that the seller told him that the tranny was DTT built. That's not a good defense, anyway, since he is responsible for his auction wording, but it would look really bad if he purposely misrepresented his product. Thanks in advance for any help.
Here are a few pictures of the torque converter, perhaps someone can help identify who made it: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ll&limit=last1
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Looks to be made by the same company that I bought one from before i did my good transmission rebuild. I dont know who exactly made it...but it had basically the same sticker with different code on it. I have pictures of it in a previous post somewhere when I had transmission problems. If you look back through my posts you might be able to find it.
As far as i know my old one like you have pictured above was just a heavy duty verison of the stock one minus the lock up like yours has.
As far as i know my old one like you have pictured above was just a heavy duty verison of the stock one minus the lock up like yours has.
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Looks like he covered his rear by saying: 'It is being sold as is, no warranty or guarantee.' Unless there's some ebay wording leg you can stand on. For the rest of ya, don't buy anything from ebay. Keep in mind, it's ebay.
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Gilbert, I kinda agree that Ebay is a crapshoot. But just to clue everyone in, Paypal will reimburse up to $2,000 if they find me to be the righteous party. And, you're right, the seller did say 'It is being sold as is..........or guarantee. But in the auction title and in the auction body he clearly stated it was a DTT-built tranny. And that's what I bid on - cause the used parts and core still have considerable value. But its not a DTT transmission and doesn't appear to contain DTT parts (I haven't disassembled the whole tranny, just observed what's visible with pan removed). Anyway, we'll see if he can advertise a DTT trans and send a generic trans. If so, I'll quit EBay too!
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Thanks mullishacrew! Please excuse my ignorance, but others have said this is a "billet torque converter". I thought that was different from a stocker. Anyone knowledgeable about that?
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I agree that it's a stock rebuild job(converter). My bro bought his '98 on an estate auction. It had 120k and we figured the t/c was loose. Pulled it out to put in the nv4500, and found a blue converter with a sticker on it. The converter wasn't even 3 months old! I would find a better one before I put the trans in.
I billet converter is just that. The whole font plate is machined from solid steel, not a stamping. It will look much heavier.
I billet converter is just that. The whole font plate is machined from solid steel, not a stamping. It will look much heavier.
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LS-lowered stall/ HD- heavy duty/ RV-tow converter
LS/HD/RV= Upgraded stock converter. It may have a billet cover but that is no tripple disc. Should have a 20% larger single disc inside. I'd say tranny shop Knock Off!
LS/HD/RV= Upgraded stock converter. It may have a billet cover but that is no tripple disc. Should have a 20% larger single disc inside. I'd say tranny shop Knock Off!
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I don't think it's a crapshoot. I've never been shafted on E-bay, and even if I got shafted I won't let that one time stop me from continuing to use it. The negative of something speaks so much louder than the positive. Remember growing up when you did something bad for one minute you got scalded, but you could be good all week and not much was said.......that's kinda like anything else in life it seems.
There are great finds on E-bay. I just stay cautious and don't go for anything that is sold as-is without a guarantee.
There are great finds on E-bay. I just stay cautious and don't go for anything that is sold as-is without a guarantee.
#13
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Thanks for all the replies, but I'm still confused. Is this a billet converter, or are my pictures not good enough to determine that? If it is a billet converter, I thought there are only a few outfits that manufacture them. If so, it seems there should be some way to identify the maker of this one - or at least narrow it down - is that possible? Does anyone know if there is a master list of outfits that manufacture billet converters?
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I just got in from looking at my single disk billet converter and yours looks like it has a billet front cover, single disk. If you want to see what a triple disk looks like go through my gallery.
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Thanks JD730. I checked out your gallery and, yes, my TC doesn't look anything like your triple disc. Do you by chance have a picture of your single disc 47RH lock up converter. By the way, I gone over your 47RH rebuild thread several times and that is what gave me the confidence to give this a try - but things aren't starting off very well.