My thoughts as well.
Y'all can achieve the same results by running down to your local hardware store and buy every piece of pipe, tube, fitting and wireing connector the store has to offer.
Get home, place all that stuff under your hood and snap a few pics.

However, I say the same thing about most new vehicles on the road today.
I'll keep my 12valve.

Rich.

 

More is better...............huh?

 

Twin turbos? WHERE
What was wrong with 7.3L, that wat the best motor furd ever had

guess we will have to come up with a name for this PIECE OF WORK

 

The 7.3 could not meet the EPA regs.

Rich.

 

thats fords problem!!! they forgot to put the non cutaway engines in the trucks....

 

Ford or International needs to tear into the 7.3 and make some changes where it will pass the epa regulations. It might be worth a darn then.

 

Get's pretty bad when ya hafta unbolt the truck from around the engine when ya change the oil...... GEEEEEESHH...ONLY FURD would be so stupid!
I agree with EVERYONE else...That's rediculous. Who would buy that?
It's no wonder they're more expensive than the Dodge. Look at all the USELESS EXTRA GARBAGE under the hood you gotta pay for.

 

I dunno, it just looks to plain and simple for me. I would like to see a bit more complexity. NOT!

Glow plugs ... still? How friggin archeaic will they remain?

I tell you what guys, I've got an old 93 RX-7 Twin Turbo that I'm "fixin' up." And that's one complicated S.O.B. with those twin turbos. I wouldn't wish twin turbos on my (possibly soon) X's future husband. Well, maybe I would.

What's the friggin purpose of twin turbos? In the case of my RX-7 (1.3L), the small turbo spools nicely and quick at low rpm, and the big (relatively speaking) 2nd turbo kicks in only at higher rpm to push more air to meet the air requirement demands of higher rpms.

Is Ford / Navistar admitting they have built a high revving diesel? I think one slightly large turbo with a varying port size into the exhaust side of the turbo is the way to go. At low rpm, the port size is reduced which increases the pressure on the driven side of the turbo, making it respond quicker than just a fix sized port. Less turbo lag. I think that's how the Holset VGT works. That makes much more sense, reliability and cost-wise than twin turbos.

- JyRO

 

Not that I'm sticking up for that mess of an engine compartment... but have you guys seen the pictures of the 6.7 Cummins in a Dodge? It looks just as crammed.

 

Looks like 50 lb. of poop in a 5 lb. box idea. No way does the 6.7 even come close to looking like this.

 

Ahhhhh, I thought it was bad enough getting your hand in to plug in a module on the 6.0 maybe it will be a good thing if the aftermarket can't get into that thing. The wiring schematic on the space shuttle is almost as bad. I think you need to be a rocket scientist to work on that thing.

 

Spooler, my M-I-L lives just south out of Claxton. Go there occasionally, I'll blow a puff of smoke as a salute to ya next time I'm down that way. Sorry to hijack the post. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.

- JyRO

 

Okay, I just looked at this engine package up close at an SAE (sae.org) conferance I attended in Chicago. The Cutaway body (ready for upfitter) was on display along with the blue F-350 featured in these photos at the start of this thread. WHAT A MESS!! The cutaway at least allowed visitors to see what's in back of the engine (wish i had a camera) as the "Y" pipe has been made even more complex than before. The two turbos (as opposed to one VGT turbo) are a packaging nightmare on this V-8.

Also there are TWO Egr coolers - on on the Driver's side of the engine, one right on the front. I couldn't tell for sure but I have to wonder if there are two EGR valves as well. It's a Common-rail injected engine, but I could not see the common rail accumulators? One adds oil to the engine through the container holding the oil filter??...

I do hope it's better than the 6.0h-no's have proven to be. As far as complexity, thank the EPA, C.A.R.B. and the Sierra Club. It's thier doing. Gosh, I wonder what this engine package will actually cost?

 

Ford's answer to the bungled up mess of the 6.0 NO? "Let's get complex."

As bad a condition as Ford Motor Company is in right now (as a company), they need to follow the KISS methodology. Success versus domination is what they need. They'll get neither with that 6.4. Once the turbo problems start cropping up, it will be far too complicated and expensive of a mess for owners to continue to deal with it.

- JyRO

 

I wonder when we'll see one in a truck pull makin a full pull without blowin somethin up??

Im tearin apart a 7.3 power stroke now and im puttin new head gaskets and a turbo on. thats bad enough, but i cant imagine workin on that.