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Old 06-13-2006, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Hannibal
That there ain't no letter from Exxon. I could'a done better'n that myself.
For one thing they wouldn't have called the fuel low sulfur diesel when in fact it is ultra low sulfur diesel that is in question. Huge difference.
Low sulfur diesel has been required onroad since 1994

And Exxon offering B50, what a joke. I highly doubt blends over 20% will ever be offered.
Old 06-13-2006, 12:41 PM
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I talked to a guy at BP who wrote an article on this subject, I posted it on here someplace before. I asked him about the lubricity of the ultra low sulpher diesel and he said the lubricants were added to the blend before they left to go to the supplier and there is a government standard as to what levels of lubricity it has to be at. He said it would not affect our vp's because the fuel has to meet the lubrication specs for the new, higher tolerance diesels in 07' and beyond. I was satisfied with his explanation, and he called me back after I emailed BP. So, needless to say I buy BP fuel as my primary fuel. Just a satisfied customer I suppose
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We are hauling ultra low sulpher diesel now off our pipeline. It has an additive tank where the lube is being added as I load. All the diesel at our tank farm comes down the same pipe & goes into the same tanks no matter who the shippper is. Whether it's BP, Chevron, Shell, Tosco, Tesoro, etc.
Old 06-13-2006, 10:08 PM
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News flash!.........Diesel fuel is oil!!!! This "oil" is what lubes your vp-44. The injector pump most likely failed because of a failed or failing lift pump. S15 is not going to toast your fuel system or your motor. The lubricity ASTM standard is the same for the new S15 as it was for the old SXX or SXXX.
Even some of the shipping industry titans have run the new fuel in their older, pollution spewing container vessels on trans-Atlantic crossings without incident. It's way to early to jump to conclusions here, give it some time!
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:01 AM
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Wouldn't make much sense and could lead to a national disaster if the new fuel left a large percentage of the trucking fleet broke down at the side of the road.
People are worrying needlessly.
Old 06-14-2006, 10:33 AM
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People are worrying because he said that she said that he said that ULSD will destroy older pumps.

THINK ABOUT IT!!! Which pump would require greater lubricity...the 18000PSI VP44, or the 26000PSI CP3?? Common sense would tell us that higher pressures means closer tolerances, which would REQUIRE better lubricity!

ULSD is NOT going to "ruin" your VP44's. Besides, the older fuel didn't seem to keep them from failing either, and it had more of that magical sulfur in it

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Old 06-14-2006, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by signature600
ULSD is NOT going to "ruin" your VP44's. Besides, the older fuel didn't seem to keep them from failing either, and it had more of that magical sulfur in it

Relax,
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Boy ain't that the truth. And while I'm not worried, I will be adding my own fuel lubricant to the fuel just as a precaution. My vp's getting old and I wanna keep it running as long as possible. Watch it fail as soon as I build the trans.
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Now THAT would be funny Yet one more reason I bought another 12v I have a spare pump 2 Actually!

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I just pumped my 1st tank of LSD...Found out thats why it was 10 cents cheaper than everywhere else...Added my usual 20oz of PS/MMo 50/50 mix....We'll see what kind of performance I get from it....
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
Boy ain't that the truth. And while I'm not worried, I will be adding my own fuel lubricant to the fuel just as a precaution. My vp's getting old and I wanna keep it running as long as possible. Watch it fail as soon as I build the trans.

HAHA....i think i know a guy somewhere that can help you change it BB!
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Originally Posted by Herrin811
I just pumped my 1st tank of LSD...Found out thats why it was 10 cents cheaper than everywhere else...
You sure it wasn't ULSD?
LSD has been the only onroad fuel since 1994.
Most of the ULSD I've seen is 10¢/ga more expensive.
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Originally Posted by infidel
You sure it wasn't ULSD?
LSD has been the only onroad fuel since 1994.
Most of the ULSD I've seen is 10¢/ga more expensive.
Isn't LSD illegal? Causes halucinations or something like that.
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Dan
HAHA....i think i know a guy somewhere that can help you change it BB!
You gonna pay for the tow bill?
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Originally Posted by infidel
You sure it wasn't ULSD?
LSD has been the only onroad fuel since 1994.
Most of the ULSD I've seen is 10¢/ga more expensive.

Dunno man...first pump ive seen tagged around here....Didnt say "Ultra", only "LSD" but it did have the "No 2007 Vehicle" warning on it
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Originally Posted by boostjunkie1
I agree - - - -Starting rumors is a !

Well, there is no way that they are going to be able to make a Fuel that will put the American Economy in a bind!
If this fuel is so bad, what happens when all of the Big Rigs start breaking down after a couple of tanks of this stuff!!! Not feasable- - - !!
Its funny you say that.I was driving from NC. to the north east and saw no less than a dozen big trucks on the side of the road with their hoods up and usually I might see one or two


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