Would I be money & time ahead of the game to just go ahead & buy fresh soybean oil, as opposed to riding all over GA to come up with the quantities of oil I need to make a 1000 to 1500 gallons per week?
Is corn oil, cottonseed oil, or peanut oil any better?
What is the best & cheapest & where can i find it in GA? I am building a system using 275 gallon plastic totes in metal cages. If anyone has done this, I am open to suggestions. We start construction in the morning.

I just figured it would save time to buy a couple thousand gallons of veggie oil & not have as much work to do in the process of making BIO, or is the process the same, no matter veggie oil or WVO?

I am also going to be mixing waste motor oil with my BIO. Should this cause me any problems? I am also looking at making diesel out of WMO, because I can get plenty of it FREE.
Thanks for any help.

 

Containers are good for storage. I assume you can find pleanty of good peanut oil in Ga. Same process to make Bio. with virgin or WVO. Virgin may make less biproducts.

 

I don't know where to find any kind of virgin oil or anything else. That is why i was asking. I plan to use the containers I have for my BIO system.They don't funnel down, but do have a 2 inch ball valve opening. I will figure something out.

Please advse on where to buy the oil from. Thanks

 

Avoid plastic containers, for anything but storage. If you burn a whole in one, it's hard to stop it from enlarging. Use steel barrels or an old hot water heater for your processor.

 

Make sure you filter your WMO vry well.

 

I pour it from one bucket to another using a T-Shirt or towel. Motor oil that comes directly out of a oil pan is already filtered. I don't worry about my own, but when I get it from other sources, I do filter it to make sure there is no particles in it. I am about to build me a 2 filter pump system to run it all thru, once I get going.

I still need to know where to buy Veggie oil & which oil makes the best BIO. Which one is the most economical to by, etc. I appreciate any help anyone can offer.

Annabelle, The plastic i have is 3/8ths thick. They are actually used in a business that pours up to 220 degree asphalt sealant in them. If plastic is no good for making Biodiesel, why are there so many different systems for sale with them? Thin plastic YES, thick plastic should be plenty safe. I will find out one way or the other though.

 

I still say avoid plastic. It's used because it's cheap and easy. I have seen spills caused by plastic. You will need a heat sourse up to 130 * F. Just be carefull. I don't mean to tell you what to do, I just won't use plastic for processing.

 

I'm in construction, and I have a friend that seals asphalt for a living. 220* is pushing it I'd say.

 

Any ideas on where to buy veggie oil? Is there no one here that knows?

 

Try resturant supply, or Ag suppliers.

 

If you are building a processing system that uses a plastic tank for a reactor, you are being foolish.. They are a HUGE fire hazard.

 

Try this site:

http://www.bulkoil.com/scripts/oiltype_item.asp?p=127

 

Mr Murphy there must be foolish people all over this country, because everyone I have seen is plastic & it doesn't cost 12 thousand dollars. Please don't try to promote your products to me, by bad mouthing what I am doing. I have a chemist with a master's degree working on this with me, & he has assured me, we will have no fire hazzard, unless an outside fire should engulf the whole area where we have our system set up.

Mr Murphy I have noticed your posts to other people doing it themselves, and you always seem to criticize what they are doing. Please send me one of your machines on a trial basis & we will see if it is worth 12 Grand or 12 dollars, otherwise, ????????????

Thanks Sunwizard for the link & responding with info I was looking for.

 

I have a BS in chemisty also. I'm not trying to sell you anything. I would not use plastic in processing either. The expensive plastic processors are over priced. I wen't thru "Girl Mark" and made my own. Her plans were complete, yet inexpensive. Plastic is more of a melting hazzard than a fire hazzard. JM02.

 

BIGHEAD, you seem to be living up to your handle...
I'm not trying to sell you anything and my processors don't cost $12K. If you are refering to the BioPro, that's made by AGR not me..

My plans cost $99 and show you how to build a safe steel system for around $400 or so.

There are literally THOUSANDS of foolish people in this country.. and I am not "BAD MOUTHING" what you are doing. I'm trying to save your home and possibly your LIFE by giving you solid advice from "those in the know"..

Are you wondering what interest I have in saving your home from a biodiesel fire? Let me tell you.. At the time, there are no regulations or restrictions on making biodiesel on your residential property.. However, every home fire that is caused by someone making biodiesel brings us all one step closer to government interference and regulation.. That would be VERY bad... That's my motivation.. I hear about a fire somewhere about once every two weeks or so..

I am a 20 year Industrial Process Engineer and have built many different kinds of machines for the automotive industry over the years. If I ever installed a system that reacted flammable chemicals in a plastic tank, I'd probably be sued out of business for negligence.

While your "Chemist" may know the chemistry involved (any 12 year old could make biodiesel) he doesnt know jack-ding dong about process safety if he's telling you a plastic tank is ok.. In fact, that very bad advice would make me cautious about anything else he says..

Come on dude.. use your common sense.. HOT OIL + FLAMMABLE METHANOL + Caustic chemicals in a plastic tank = BAD BAD BAD..

You dont need a "chemist" to make biodiesel.. I've had literally hundreds of people ask me for advice about the chemistry.. everyone is so intimidated by it.... I try to tell people " Its no more difficult than making bacon and eggs for breakfast".. You dont need to know the exact molecular composition of an egg to cook it.. Really.. I'm not joking or pulling your leg.

I offer my advice to small home-brewers free of charge.. No need to purchase anything from me or send any money.. MY ADVICE IS FREE.. you can't get any better than that eh? I'll even talk to you on the phone for an hour to two if you like.. (you can pay for the call) and fill you full of great advice at no charge.. all you have to do is say thanks and DONT burn down your home. And, the phone call is not so I can pester you with sales crap.. I dont work that way..


However, when I see someone doing something wrong, I speak up loud and clear.. No offense to you or anyone else but there is a right way, and a wrong way to make fuel.. A plastic reactor is THE WRONG WAY.

Here is what happens to PLASTIC REACTORS.. (Notice the cardboard boxes did better than the tank in the fire)