Try looking at these sites for more information, test data etc.
I have a 2006 Ram 2500 4x4 that is running on wvo. Filter down to 2 microns, only run when the engine temps are high enough, be a careful consumer, and recycle. Freedom from the oil companies is worth it.

http://www.greasecar.com/
http://www.goldenfuelsystems.com/
http://www.frybrid.com/

 

It should be noted that the above post is not an advertisement for BIODIESEL.
There is no Veggie Oil Conversion. Its just heated waste veg oil and it will damage your engine.

BioDiesel is recognized by the US Department of Energy as a "Direct alternative to regular diesel fuel or fuel oil"

Vegetable oil is recognized as nothing but FOOD. and if you feed it to your engine, you are taking a huge, and expensive risk.

 

so is this guy full of it murphy?

brett

 

check out this website it has TONS of info on the conversion.
http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/foru...rm/f/159605551
im running my Mercedes 240D on veg but its not a common rail.

 

I give your CRI engine less than a year on WVO.
With the higher temps and pressures in the CRI WVO tends to polymerize (get stringy on a microscopic level) ) and plug things up.

 

I just got back from a biodiesel conference in Golden Colorado. We were invited to the Denver Biodiesel place, and while we were there I met a guy that does the SVO conversions. I didn't hear too many negatives to running it, but it sounds more like a hassle to start off in biodiesel or regular diesel, then run the SVO and then end on biodiesel or regular diesel. Most SVO conversions he was working on or had done was mercedes. I didn't meet anyone with a truck with a conversion- those guys were running biodiesel.

 

Now I have a friend that owns a shop in KY that does deep fry he's made the conversion to useing WVO in his 1999 2500. He's got a 65 gallon tank in the bed of the truck that holds the WVO piped through a heater. The WVO is brought up to temp and when it reaches this temp a solinoid switches to WVO. Really i'd swear unless you knew it was there you'd never know he was running WVO. To solve the problem of the WVO gunking up everything a purge switch shuts down the WVO and runs diesel through for 2 minutes before shutdown.

I know he's been running this system for atleast 3 or 4 years and reported no problems at all. Seeing as he used to have to pay folks to haul away the WVO he's now very happy to not be paying the price at the pump.

So what damage could he be causeing to his truck?

thanks

 

Besides the fuel doing bad things in the comin rail fuel systems , there is coking , soot & gumming .
The single biggest thing seems to be beleavers , somebody els said ,
Because of the laboratory/chemists , just looking at this , none of the University studies even bother to do research on the non processed [ transesterfication = removing triglycerides ] , just the bio-diesel .
Thats aside from some other issues , like PH balance , removing salts & water .
I've been into alternative energy stuff for 30 yrs , some ideas seem to grab hold beyond any logic or science , but we are in a free world [ thats questionable ] and we are free to chose , I chose to speak out against the bull [ and some other stuff also ] .

 

I love how you guys all jump in to say how bad running WVO/SVO is when you have no experience with it.
I read about biodiesel problems all the time, yet I hardly ever read about engine problems from running VO.
I've converted over 50 vehicles and been involved in probably 100 more and don't have one single report of an engine problem.

My personal truck is an 04.5 Dodge 2500 that I converted at 10k miles. I now have over 45K and not a single problem.
Granted it is not 300K or more like we all want to see out of these engines, but it is a start.

infidel, that's just over 2 years. Just dynoed 411hp on WVO last month
Maybe a spoonful of glycerin will help that crow go down.


I'm not ignorant to the fact that running WVO/SVO is a risk. I'm not advocating to one do it without weighing the options for themselves. And most importantly I'm not advocating that one do this without a proper 2 tank conversion.

John, maybe it is time for you to listen to your own words.......

 

Well first off there are not my words , this is all factual info form actual / real studies , that involve the science of chemistry , and then the builders of engines doing tear downs & inspections , not conjecture .
I would like it to be proved that there is no issues with WVO/SVO , because being a fan of science & logic , if I could find , or some one could prove [ again with facts ,not conjecture ] that there are no issues , I would be all over a simpler , cheaper , cleaner burning fuel .
This what I mean by believers , is that looking at facts to make decisions , not assumptions .
I'm not a scientist , if I could do it over again , I would have stuck with the science in school , its just that I did not learn the value until the school days were over , now its a hobby , and I appreciate the scientific method [ leaving the belief attitudes out of it , and just using facts to show something to be or not ] , its not an ego thing about who's right & wrong [ thats one of the attitudes of belief systems ] .
This is an informal info site , and these are facts that I have found , I am just offering my 2 cents worth , well maybe a dime or so now .
With the WVO/SVO , how ever they are administered , I have not seen many addressing PH , water , salts ect , that are in bio .
There are more & more repair shops reporting issues as time goes on & this becomes used more , in most cases its long term issues .
Here is a just a few of the references I have found .

http://web.missouri.edu./~schumacherl/biofuel.html


http://www.utahbiodieselsupply.com/


http://www.uidaho.edu/bioenergy/ansers_to_FAQ20005.htm

 

Way I look at it is why hassle with a estimated $5 billion per year biodiesel industry if all you have to do is burn unrefined vegie oil?

 

Is that the short version ?

 

Ditto, I dont think veggie will work well on a newer engine and pump. Pressures are high and tolerances are lower.
Its only good on older vehicles with mechanical pumps really. Otherwise biodiesel is your safer bet. Even that Id worry about with the polymerization.
Whatever you choose to do, keep an eye on the oil with frequent analysis and make sure your fuel is dry as possible and filtered to 5micron or better.