I think that the early 07's will be ok with the fuel we have now..

I heard a rumor that Dodge 07's will still have the 5.9 in them until Jan 01 then it will switch to the 6.7 emission motor. Will it be an 07.5 or an 08 I have no idea.

Fords 2007 will still be the 6.0 up to january 1st then they will introduce the 08 model with their new engine. (just like they did in 03 with the early one had the 7.3 and later ones had the 6.0).

Don't know about Chevy.

 

I think you have that 2007 statement turned around. The way I see it this new fuel wasn't made for pre-2007 vehicles and so it may screw up the existing engines because the process to remove sulphur also removed the lubrication from the fuel itself. That means an additive needs to be put in to compensate. The 2007 engines should be just fine.

I'm not gonna worry about what kind of fuel I'm getting cuz my fuel supplier just gave me a 10 year warranty on my new farm equipment. Check it out fer yerself www.cenex.com/?Page=004467083&Path=0;0;1

 

If it's green, yellow green, yellow or clear it's taxed.
If it's black or red it's not taxed.

 

For you folks that have pumps with LSD and ULSD side by side, how much of a difference in price are you seeing? There was speculation that once the stuff is fully adopted this fall that the prices would go up quite a bit.
Im assuming the intention IS to get rid of the LSD and switch completely over to ULSD..

 

About twenty cents higher, depending on your State fuel tax.

 

After Aug 1 LSD will only be available in red dyed offroad, onroad fuel will be all be ULSD. This only lasts a few years until all diesel will be required to be ULSD.
People are worrying way too much about the change, about the only difference you will notice is the higher price.

 

So does low sulphur and Ultra low sulphur mean the same in Europe?
I am considering in using a Euro Daimler-chrlyser v6 diesel in my Land Rover.
I have read that one of the problems with using Euro diesels here is the sulphur content in US Diesel fuel.

Anyone know if the Europeans are using Low sulphur or Ultra low sulphur.

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/01/00/01/index.jsp.

 

European standards are between low and ultra low. The engine performance doesn't change between the sulfur levels , the emissions ratings are compromised as wannadiesel posted.
The biggest difference between Euro diesel & NA diesel is cetane. Euro minimum is higher than NA maximum. NA is North America.

 

buy stock in power service. and buy it now whike its cheap.. im not chancing another 1500 vp-44

 

So can I use a modern high tech Euro diesel in America without engine mechanical problems and performance hit?

 

There would probally ba ssome performance hit, due to the lower cetane.

Use an additive like the silver Power Service to help bump cetane up...

 

Filled up yesterday at my normal fuel station and they had the hole LSD federal law in 07 diesel sticker on the pump, and also they stopped carring the 45 cetane and now only have 40. I'm guessing that the ULSD will have a lower cetane rating?

 

ULSD, according to Chevron, will have about 1% lower energy content (BTU/gallon) but higher cetane due to removal of more aromatics.

LSD = 500 PPM sulfur

ULSD = 15 PPM sulfur

Euro diesel = 50 PPM sulfur

Rusty

 

what does all this mean for somone like me with a 12 valve. is there somthing i will have to do to my truck or what?

 

The early '07 models (from June '06 to Dec 31, 2006) will have the '06 emissions. The EPA requirements are to take effect on vehicles produced on or after Jan. 01, 2007. The fuel companies were whining that there will be residual sulfur in the pipeline that would be picked up by any ULSD that was pumped through. That's why they are switching to the ULSD early.