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Old 09-08-2006, 11:28 AM
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"...if someone who can't afford it gets sick in this country they aren't denied treatment."

That depends on what insurance company is involved.
Pretty sure it's a federal law that a person can't be denied treatment at an emergency room due to lack of money or insurance.
That's why people without money or insurance clog up the emergency rooms with problems that aren't really emergencies.
As a result healthcare and insurance premiums are raised for the rest of us.
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Pretty sure it's a federal law that a person can't be denied treatment at an emergency room due to lack of money or insurance.
That's why people without money or insurance clog up the emergency rooms with problems that aren't really emergencies.
As a result healthcare and insurance premiums are raised for the rest of us.
You are correct, sir!
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Thumbs up ulsd

absolutely correct.i have been in fire ems for 15 yrs and the majority of people i take to hospital dont have a job.people that have jobs dont call for am ambulance at 0300am for bellyache.they take somethin and go to bed coz they know they gotta go to work in the morning.i have asked doctors in er to write people scrips for a job instead of meds,because there is nothing wrong with most of these people that a job would not cure. i dont know how we got on this subject ,my apologies to administrators.i feel much better now btw my fuel mileage seems to have dropped by 2mpg since using ulsd,can we buy sulfur in a can anywhere?
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i dont know how we got on this subject
It's within the subject because the entire reasoning behind ULSD is cleaner air, which results in better heath for everyone.
Don't think you'll find anyone claiming that smog is good for you.
The higher price and lower mpgs with ULSD will hopefully balance out or come out ahead of the hidden costs we pay for dirty air.
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ONE MEASLEY PERCENTAGE POINT??

That's how much less energy content?


IMO, that's a miniscule price to pay for the much cleaner burning of ULSD.

I'm expecting VP44 failures to lessen with the new fuel.


Bill's completely right about the sickness thing. We pretty much already have socialized medicine, and the ULSD is just part of our premium in this new HMO.


Brings new meaning to the term "premium diesel", EH????
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Old 09-11-2006, 05:39 AM
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A while ago, the wife had a bad bad ear ache. Keep me up all night, took her to the ER, I tried to sleep there. had to work the next day. I think only one other person wsa actually in pain there. I swear it was a hangout for some people....

Umm no ULSD in OR yet....I do lots of city driving...avg about 15mpg, using the right pedal to help steer...and I wonder why I need tires...
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So here is a thought. With them removing the sulfur from the diesel because of the particals, this in turn has resulted in a decrease in fuel mileage which results in us using more fuel??? Yes???

Soooo how is this going to be be healthier???
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The decrease in energy content (BTU/gal) of ULSD from LSD is reported to be about 1%, which won't effect mileage as much as how many bugs smash into your grill on any given summer drive...

... so far, anecdotal evidence for mileage differences have been both sparse and contradictory.
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Originally Posted by XLR8R View Post
The decrease in energy content (BTU/gal) of ULSD from LSD is reported to be about 1%, which won't effect mileage as much as how many bugs smash into your grill on any given summer drive...

... so far, anecdotal evidence for mileage differences have been both sparse and contradictory.
If the energy content lost is only 1% then why is it that the one tank of it I got on my vacation this summer gave me a loss of 3.25 mpg. I know I'm not the only one who has lost 2-3 mpg from ULSD.

2500CTD, what part of OR are you in? I moved from OR to IA last year and I'm very happy with lower cost of living and friendly people.

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I was getting 16-17 mpg before ULSD now I'm strugling to get 15mpg. This sucks
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If the energy content lost is only 1% then why is it that the one tank of it I got on my vacation this summer gave me a loss of 3.25 mpg. I know I'm not the only one who has lost 2-3 mpg from ULSD.
Just my $0.02
Just as several have claimed mileage increases, and some no change, with ULSD...
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This past summer w/ engine fan on:

B20, 500 PPM #2, 646 miles/29 Days = 20.07 MPG

Last fill. Engine fan off for winter, A/C compressor disabled, New Fluidampr, "Winter blend" fuel, temps between 25-60:

50 PPM ULSD, 659 miles/31 Days = 20.76 MPG

All fills include my additive stack of Amalgamated/Amsoil Cetane Boost & Fuel Power 60.

NO loss in mileage w/ ULSD here. Very, Very pleased!
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Started with 20.1MPG on old #2, made the switch to ULSD 18.6MPG. Added a blend of Amsoil and 2 stroke, up to 19.8 and smoke is invisible during the day but at night in the headlight behind me!!! WOOHOO!! People stay a good 250' minimum from me. Don't even need the night setting on the rear view anymore.
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Could this sudden decrease in mileage for everyone have anything to do with the winter blend of diesel as in the past? Don't know when they switch to the winter fuel or if they even do with this new stuff, just curious
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