It looks pretty funny, but I saw a guy who built one for his GMC gasser use two of those cheap SS grill spatulas. his city MPG is up to 21 on average. cost him $40 total to build the kit. Its ghetto, I admit, but it works.

 

I have been playing around with my generator and using a second cell with distilled water in it to keep water vapors out of the combustion chamber. has anyone tried it?

 

I have been playing with HHO for some time. One of the better setups is water craking cell out to bubbler (this provides visual of flow and water check) then out to dryer cell which allows for acumulation and condensing on the wall from here you plumb to air intake. Has anyone have ideas about the rusty water issue iam using 304ss plate? I also tried 316ss wasn't much better.

 

One more thing about the bubbler is that it helps take out impurities that may transfer from water cracking cell(s)

 

I haven't found a way to prevent the rusty water. Maybe carbon/graphite? instead of SS? With fuel prices down there sure has been less experimenting on my part.

 

What about the monatomic vs diatomic?

 

I have been running an HHO on-demand generator on my truck since January 08, and I have boosted my fuel average by 4 mpg, from 14 to 18 mpg. I have a windshield washer reservoir mounted on my battery hold down bolt where I pour in the water and soda solution. The generator is mounted below the radiator,approximately 18 inches below the fill tube so that the plates will always be submerged in liquid. On top of the reservoir I have installed 2 45 degree elbows-one on each side of the reservoir. The down tube from the bottom of the reservoir feeds into the bottom of the generator, and the hydrogen and oxygen gas rise through the tube from the top of the generator back into the top of reservoir. When operating properly, this thing will bubble like mad. The reservoir is airtight, so the reservoir becomes a settling/pressure feed tank to hold the hydrogen and oxygen which is then piped through plastic tubing, through a check valve to prevent a flashback and possible fire, into the intake tube, where the turbo draws the HHO gas into the engine and burns it with the diesel. Hydrogen, pound for pound, burns 3 times hotter than gasoline, giving a hotter, more complete burn of the fuel, generating more thermal energy per fuel injection cycle by utilizing more of the fuel (a typical diesel engine only burns 34% to 39 % of the fuel injected into the cylinder each cycle), and reducing emissions (the remaining 61% to 66% just goes out the tailpipe as black smoke). My truck doesn't even smoke anymore, and the exhaust smells sweeter. I was a skeptic too, but I know it works through experimentation. You cannot put too much HHO into the engine-excess HHO goes through the engines and re-forms as water vapor(H2O) in the atmosphere. Remember, you are introducing hydrogen and oxygen gas into your engine-not steam. These small amounts of HHO are also too insignificant to cause damage inside the engine. Stan Meyer drove a full size automobile using only a hydrogen generator from Los Angeles, California to New York City, and used 22 gallons of distilled water-NO GASOLINE AT ALL! After using an HHO generator for a full year, don't even try to tell me is doesn't work-I know better. I also sell and install HHO generators, and some of my customers have more than doubled their fuel mileage, so I don't think you will convince them, either. In cold weather mix with methanol (windshield washer anti-freeze) or RV anti-freeze, not glycol based anti-freezes. Do not use alcohol- it interferes with the electrolysis process. And use only steam distilled water-the minerals in tap water or spring water will cause mineral deposits on the anode and cathode plates or rods, requiring frequent cleaning.

 

jbone - methanol is alcohol so you are recommending to use something that you recommend not to use???? Which is it???

Your percentage of burn is also WAY off, 99% of the fuel is burnt but thermal efficiency of the internal combustion engine is only 35 to 50% and it depends on if it is naturally or force aspirated. It is not unburnt fuel going out the tail but unused heat energy.

As for the water car, that would be the Holy Grail but it would fall into the category of perpetual motion, so will not happen anytime soon.

The HHO process is BS, as it relates increased fuel mileage, energy used equals or exceeds energy recovered..

 

You sell them huh? I'd say conflict of interest. They are BS. Go home Troll.

 

jbone I'd like to know how your setting up you'r cell?
I've yet to find someone who actually proved it doesn't work. I've had my cells not work, sometimes.

 

Well I guess I'll be the first again on a 6.7 that is. Anyone else out there working with a 6.7?

 

Ive been working with HHO for a long time as well as some others. It does work, often not to the degree claimed. This industry, and yes it is becoming an industry has more snake oil salesmen than honest people. Im not directing this at jbone either. I can from personal experience say they do work on diesels. I work on class 8 trucks and have seen as much as a 12% increase, typically see 5-10%. There are many opinions on what works and what doesnt.

As for the Meyers buggy, I dont believe its real, it is in fact perpetual motion, someday it may be a reality but its not been done yet and probably wont anytime soon. annabelle, you can call hho'ers what you want, the fact is it does work, its not overunity and theres a logical and scientific reasoning as to why it works. The DOT has also found it works as well 4% to be exact.

Any of you who are serious about it should read on the other web forums, there is so much free information out there it is overwhelming. I dont run it on my truck because the savings isnt worth the hassle of maintaining the unit, but I have thousands of miles of testing on semis that show it does work

 

Please give us a link to your DOT claim......I cannot find anything backing that up. Also any valid double blind scientific study would be nice.

 

This thread is perpetual motion.

I work on engines that cost millions of dollars and use 1/2 gallon of fuel a second. The same engine has 1/4 a gallon a second of water injected and never has anyone ever suggested we should try to make our own fuel from water. A 4% saving would be HUGH on our equipment. We have customers that spend 2 million every 3 years to over haul the engine and they have operating fuel costs of over $4000 an hour (and much worse then that recently) and don't you think that they would want to save a few percent of that?? If there were even a 1% gain we would have customers beating on the door of the guy that could give them that savings. HHO is a nice experiment but it does not result in any net gain.

 

Yeah, if it worked every fleet spending millions of dollars on fuel would have them. Heck I wished it worked......but it's pie in the sky.