Hello,

Answers to your questions.

1. No, not in the form that is being attempted in this thread.
2. Yes, the forms in this thread are for fun.
3. Read the thread and enjoy.


I have read the entire thread. Not a single person has done any measurements or any other type of scientific analysis. This thread is purely for fun. There is no data of any useable type. There are persons here promoting the concept and saying they are testing but no evidence of scientific testing and certainly not a single piece of scientific data. All info in this thread is for fun only.

Damon

 

1. yes... forms of this have been tested and have worked but it takes fine tuning, more isnt always better. the IRS even accepts a system like this as an alternet fuel and u get tax cuts for it

2. i beleave there are one or two on here with a system seeing positive results, mine is in the works

3. just inject it into the intake before the turbo.

now i know no one has posted real numbers yet and im going to guess thats cuz they dont have the equipment to do it, im building a system that will be a little more complex then prevous systems on here but it will have specs and real world numbers even plans so anyone can build there own if it works, im not doing this for profit, im doing it as a prodject, its going to take awile for me to gather all the info as i do ill post

 

It works just perfecting it to see consistant results is hard with no lab. Even if I had a lab would it work in real world use? Does anyone have the money and equipment to measure the hydrogen output on the fly and adjust for the best results?
I'd come to you and work with your equipment to find the best set up.

Problem is too that everyone does different things with their trucks or even cars which affects the gain with the hydrogen.

I don't think you can build a one size fits all hydrogen unit for multiple vehicles as far as the output of hydrogen is concered. The physical unit may be the same size just change the output of hydrogen.

I know it works. I did see proveable results on my 97 but haven't had enough consistancy on my 05 to be provable. If enough people keep working there will be proven results.

 

I've been working on a chemical reaction to make hydrogen and found a way to control it. Check it out here http://www.stickittoopec.com/index.html I'm still working on the numbers but I think I'm close. You need a bubbler to clean up the gas and cool it down. but I think I can make enough to have an effect. This is the first chemical reaction device I made. I have a few ideas to improve on it and I'm trying to get enough metal pipe to make one strong enough not to have to worry about pressure. With the pvc you have to be sure to make the expansion tank big enough to keep the pressure down to a safe level.

 

Because of fuel prices I'm finding more info on how others are setting up thier cells. It's much easier on vehicles with out all the electronics to modify. If we had EFI live for out trucks I think it would be rather simple. Maybe that's why I've seen mostly Chevys modified.

 

Tree Dr......I have read all 29 pages, and just joined this website. I built a hydrogen generator using the s/s wall plates, and 3/8 threaded rod. I drilled 6 of them out to 3/8, and the other end out to 5/8. I installed rubber grommets in those holes. I checked it with an ohms meter, and had no shorts. I put it in 1 gallon of water, with 1 teaspoon of baking soda. I installed an amp meter in the + side, to measure amp draw. When I hooked it up, it drew 75 amps. 3/8 s/s rod for the + and -..........

Then I took it apart, and used all 6 plates with 1, 3/8 s/s rod, and made that the + side. I took 5/8 hard copper tubing, and soldered them together, then bolted them together, with 10 x 24 s/s bolts. It is fitted nicely in a glass, 1/2 gallon container, with brushed metal outside for strength, purchased at Walmart for $5.94........

When I hooked it up, it didn't even move my amp meter. I put a 5 amp fuse inline, and it did not blow. I added another teaspoon of baking soda, and it moved slightly, but still didn't blow the 5 amp fuse. Then I added a heaping tablespoon of baking soda, and it blew the fuse. In fact, it draws 20 amps now..........

I plumbed it into the air box, like everyone else. I am thinking of drilling and tapping the intake, after the charge air cooler. Anyone try this yet? If so, I haven't found it..........

 

Welcome to the site LowboyLarry.
Better think twice about tapping into the boost side of the turbo. That glass jar will turn into a grenade.
Do you have a bubbler or flash back arrestor? The gas you are making is known as hydroxy and is very explosive. Any spark source will set it off. I would hate to be around or have a loved one around when it went off. Most people use PVC or metal for their electrolyzers. Without some sort of flash back arrestor even they will explode. You can do a search on YouTube. I saw a video of a plastic electrolyzer exploding there.
Here are a couple of sites where you can get more info and some safety tips. I don't want to see anyone get hurt.

http://oupower.com/phpBB2/index.php

http://waterfuelforall.com/forum/ind...7285&board=3.0

 

Welcome Lowboy Larry
Glass is not a good option for a container. Sound like a good set up other than the glass.
After the turbo means you got to acount for the boost pressure. Hopefully you were keeping track of your mpg before you hooked up the hydrogen. It will be interesting to see your results. Just remember more hydrogen is not always better.

 

Thanks for the welcome guys......

I scraped the glass idea, and went with a 6 x 6 x 4 PCV electrical box, with a removable lid. I built another one with 15 wall plates, and 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda, and its stable around 15 amps. I had some clear 1 inch PVC tubing around for another project, and made a bubbler 21 inches long, and mounted it off to he side of the CAC.

As far as the mileage, I really see not much change. I do see better performance down around 1000 rpms, where before it was flat........My 03 does between 21 and 22 mpg consistently, was hoping for 25 or better, but I can see its not gonna happen........

 

Maybe with some fine tuneing you can see 25. Ask people around where you live about hydrogen especially at auto parts stores. You might be supprised how many people are working with hydrogen.

 

Tree Dr.

First, I like to say great work on the HHO. This goes to everyone that contributed. A lot of good information here to help me understand the process. I know I couldn't do this on my own.

I do have a question. I've read on OUPower.com that using club soda will produce CO2. Have you have any issue with this. I can't really find any info if it's plain tap water or distilled water or both. What are your thoughts.

Thanks,
Eugene

 

I'm still learning. I just found out you don't have to have anything in the water if your electrodes are close enough together. I'm trying out some stainless steel pipe with .050 between them. I still find the extra power on the low end also.

 

there are sites about this subject all over the internet. it still amazes me how creative humans can get when they are about to die, like during professional wars, WW1--WW11, strange things these humans. Ron

 

I see. Interesting.... I work with lye and koh when I make biodiesel. I really don't like the thought of having any mixture with them in a container. Club soda is a lot better. I'll research more about this.

Thanks,
Eugene

 

I suggest that many of you start off by building (for a few dollars) "thePowerTube" unit then read D18

1. http://youtube.com/watch?v=uTf45ulIyEc
2. http://youtube.com/watch?v=q0hGgmZcv60
http://youtube.com/watch?v=vX2eenniH74
3. http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/h2conversion/files/
"Aussie Nitro Fuel System Includes D18.pdf.zip- (the Joe cell makes for
interesting reading"

From all that I have read and seen the cell design is the MOST important.

Some other video you should watch.

http://youtube.com/user/nahtanojzluhcs
http://youtube.com/user/1miltond

I have more info but look at those first.

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