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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Oilguy,

That is great news. It is a relief to see others having sucess with these alterative fuel methods.

To revisit a question posted by msilbernagel, "ever get around to testing the finished product? I read through this topic, and followed the links.. and one of them mentioned difficulties (potential) with this general technique, such as ph (acidity). I'm sure there could be more, perhaps byproducts from synthetics or additives (dunno, guessing now)."
Old Oct 4, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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How about some pictures of the “plant”. Surely he will let you take a picture of that without violating any NDA. Anyone could walk in off the street and you could show them your “plant”.

I am probably the most skeptical one on here. I have read through 13 pages with really no tangible “proof” that it works. I hope it works and I wish you all the luck in the world. But all I have seen is a website saying it will work and your post saying that you are producing 2-3 gals per hour. Pictures of the plant, and the finished product coming out of said plant, would help us all out. If you can’t do that, then count me in as a nonbeliever. Or at least not worth the time and effort to try and gather all of the material for the plant and permits for procuring waste oil.

I hate paying $3.29 per gallon right now, but by the time I go through all the hassle of this miracle machine, I’m not sure that would be worth it in the long run. There are too many unknown variables for me.

Thank you Oilguy for bringing this topic up and I wish you all the best with your endeavor. I just don’t think it is for me without any "visual" proof.

Britt

Old Oct 4, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Hello????

Is this thing on?????

Britt

Old Oct 4, 2005 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by t-7 firefighter
Hello????

Is this thing on?????

Britt

I heard you this morning, and agree. I am interested, but not enough to drop the loot. I'm figuring that another 100 or so posts and I'll have enough to go on anyway.
But on the other hand I see how the oil refining clique paid their 90 bucks and won't let anyone in on the little secrets.

Time will tell.
Old Oct 4, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
I heard you this morning, and agree. I am interested, but not enough to drop the loot. I'm figuring that another 100 or so posts and I'll have enough to go on anyway.
But on the other hand I see how the oil refining clique paid their 90 bucks and won't let anyone in on the little secrets.

Time will tell.
Pictures of them actually getting diesel out of their "plants" might change my mind. Other then that... count me out.

Britt

Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by gobucks
Oilguy,

That is great news. It is a relief to see others having sucess with these alterative fuel methods.

To revisit a question posted by msilbernagel, "ever get around to testing the finished product? I read through this topic, and followed the links.. and one of them mentioned difficulties (potential) with this general technique, such as ph (acidity). I'm sure there could be more, perhaps byproducts from synthetics or additives (dunno, guessing now)."

I gotta think that if you are distilling the waste oil, all of the nasties will be left behind in the heavy fuel oil and not make it into the diesel. Just like it works with water.
Old Oct 4, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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I want to know how it runs in your truck. Have you used any of what you have made so far ?
Old Oct 4, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GIT-R-DONE
I want to know how it runs in your truck. Have you used any of what you have made so far ?
Not only that... what is the long term effects on the engine? So far no one has completed the "plant" and I have seen no pictures of a completed "plant" so I'm a little bit (no a lot) skeptical.
I’m not saying that it isn’t feasible but the proof is in the pudding as they say. If someone will provide pictures of the finished product with the diesel coming out of said product then I might be a believer.

I hate to be harsh but if you truly have done what you have said then you won’t have any problem posting some pictures of you getting fuel out of your miracle machine. If not then it isn’t true and this whole thread is for nothing.

Post your pictures of you getting fuel out of your machine. That is all we ask. Until then you are not (in my eyes) telling the truth.


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Old Oct 4, 2005 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by P.J
I'm figuring that another 100 or so posts and I'll have enough to go on anyway.

Not until I see some sort of visual proof would I even consider something like this. I mean someone has to be holding a jar under the facuet delivering the finished diesel into the jar. It has to be a whole picture of the miracle machine with Diesel coming out of it.

And then you still have to consider what it will do to you engine, the epa regulations, the insurance for blowing up your house, etc..etc...

But I hear nothing but crickets....

Britt

Old Oct 4, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Well I melted down another valve... If I haven't blown this thing up by now... It aint going to! hahaha. This was rollin tonight!! about 4gph best I could figure.
As for the "I got to see it to believe it" crowd...
I took the risk that this is a bunch and BS and it turned out not to be... I gave the the link and pointed you in the right direction.. I told you more than once that I am not here to convince anyone to spend $.
This is the fuel related section of the forum and everyone in here is looking around for alternative fuels to run our big bad trucks.
I still have 80 gal in the truck right now so... no... I have not run it yet... I am thinking of buying an old mercedes300d and letting her run for a while to see how it works.
I don't know what the epa regs are and I don't care if anyone believes me.
so far there is about 70 others that are building a plant that spent their $ and I don't think it would be fair to me or anyone else to post pictures or plans on this forum. If this offends you ... It is not what is intended
This is just an alternative.

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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t-7,
If you really don't think this will work please don't post your negative comments here. If you would do some online searches you will find this miracle machine is a thermal cracking unit (a still), just like the big boys (refineries).

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MikeyB
t-7,
If you really don't think this will work please don't post your negative comments here. If you would do some online searches you will find this miracle machine is a thermal cracking unit (a still), just like the big boys (refineries).

MikeyB
I’m not saying that it won’t work. I hope it does. I’m all for finding alternative fuels and methods. I read through the 13 pages of this thread and read about your thermal cracking unit. I could see how that would work. But what I don’t understand is why a picture cannot be taken of the unit. Seems a little fishy to me. That is all I’m saying. If not the whole unit then how about a picture of just the diesel fuel where it comes out of the unit. That would lend a whole lot more credibility to the thread. It would be like taking a picture of your computer. Everyone knows what they look like but not everyone knows what goes on inside.

This is just my point of view. I’m a “see it to believe it” kind of person. If I have come across as negative (which I can see where I have) then I sincerely apologize. I have a tendency to be brash sometimes and apparently this was one of those times.

I will leave you guys to your machine and once again I apologize.

Britt

Old Oct 5, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Britt,
No problem. I don't understand the secrecy either but I'm not going to press the issue. Maybe Oilguy will invite me up to College Station to see his machine.
Oilguy (hint hint)

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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Oilguy
Well I melted down another valve... If I haven't blown this thing up by now... It aint going to! hahaha. This was rollin tonight!! about 4gph best I could figure.
As for the "I got to see it to believe it" crowd...
I took the risk that this is a bunch and BS and it turned out not to be... I gave the the link and pointed you in the right direction.. I told you more than once that I am not here to convince anyone to spend $.
This is the fuel related section of the forum and everyone in here is looking around for alternative fuels to run our big bad trucks.
I still have 80 gal in the truck right now so... no... I have not run it yet... I am thinking of buying an old mercedes300d and letting her run for a while to see how it works.
I don't know what the epa regs are and I don't care if anyone believes me.
so far there is about 70 others that are building a plant that spent their $ and I don't think it would be fair to me or anyone else to post pictures or plans on this forum. If this offends you ... It is not what is intended
This is just an alternative.

Oilguy
How about posting a picture of the fuel in a jar? I don't need to see the plant, just the fuel.
Old Oct 5, 2005 | 01:48 PM
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Well I took today off (to conserve fuel) and worked on the plant... I tweeked it a bit and it is now producing about 2-3 gals per hr! It is a yellowish gold and transparent... infact it looks excactly like his picture on ebay.
I should have it producing about 2x what it is doing now.
I can crank it up and I can walk away with no worries... I have had every opportunity to blow it up and failed every time! (lol)
Mike D,

As you requested...Fuel in a jar.

Here's the pic from ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...%3A1%3A1v_home



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