I've heard the block was, I wasn't sure on the crank but the rods definately needed beefed up. I really must say "nice truck". I like it when people don't take the easy way out.

 

They make banks and sponsors, another sticker wont hurt your truck

 

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I would like to point out that while I am completely impressed with Ben's truck (both by the way it looks and runs), and I like the fact that it's different from the others, it's not a powerstroke. It may be based on the powerstroke but with custom heads, rods, pistons, crank........

Basically to me saying Ben Millers truck is a Powerstroke is like saying John Forces car is a mustang. The only thing Ford is the emblem, or in Ben's case IH.

I am in NO way minimizing his truck or his accomplishments. I am happy to see he's getting it going and am impressed he stepped outside the box and ventured into new territory. ( I really like the "gimp" stack as it has been called ) However IMO if you’re not at least using the Powerstroke heads, block or crank I don't see how you can call it a Powerstroke. (and IMO you'd be doing it an injustice by doing so.)......or I could be wrong


Some of the other mod trucks aren't even using stock blocks or cranks and ben is using both stock block and crank and the factory head with modifications...... so if you cant call his a powerstroke i don't see how you can call the other truck cummins

 

You are 10000% correct! When you get into the open, and unlimited class there is very little that is left untouched no matter what motor sport we are talking about. And truck pulling is no different.
Why do you think the 2 wheel drive unlimited class out pulls the 4x4 unlimited class? It's all about who has the most money to spend, and what is done to the puller.

 

Well to start off I never called the others a "Cummins". I'm also curious as to which truck isn't using a stock block. As far as I know there is only 1 truck that isn't using a factory block (diesel only and I don't mean substituting a ag block for a truck block) and it's not done yet.

My point is that if I was to take a 5hp Briggs and have a custom block, head, piston, rings, rod, ignition system made I don't think it's very fair to the custom engine to call it a Briggs. Here is a perfect example of what I'm talking about. Tell me if it's fair to call this car an Acura.

 

Well all i'm saying is that just because somebody took the time to build a powerstroke with a mechanical pump on it doesn't mean that it is no longer even the same motor. Most all of the other mods have the same type of stuff its just that nobody makes that kind of stuff for a powerstroke, therefore everything besides the block and crank had to be custom. Same goes for the cummins, just because they have bigger pumps,pistons,rods,modified heads doesn't mean that they are no longer a cummins motor.

 

when you say you would like to know whoes not running stock blocks because you only know of one(and its not done yet) well FYI most of the competitive cummins super stocks are not running stock blocks. However bens motor does have a stock PSD block and a stock PSD crank. and the heads were stock that have just been machine to fit different injectors. It is a powerstroke and its is just as close or closer to using stock bottom end parts than any other truck out there.

 

Is Ben gona rebuild it? heard it gernaded

 

I'm not sure where your getting your info but you couldn't be farther from the truth!

 

well i'm i am not entirley sure where you are gettin yours but that is a fact whether you want to believe it or not..... and yes ben will have his motor back together soon.

 

is TFS building this motor ?

 

I'm still waiting on you to tell me all the trucks using aftermarket blocks, since you said that most are. Erik Stacy, Craig Severson, Drew Pumphrey, Kyle Michael, Ted Sterner, Eric Stingley (sold it), Jeremy Straley, Scott Vorhees, Chris Watson? Because all of these are Cummins blocks with the exception of Kyle which is a factory D-MAX block.

If "most" are then a small sample should be easy.

 

all of the guys you named pull pro street except for watson and stingley. i don't know who's blocks are stock and who's aren't but i would guess haisley,scheid and mitchell are probably using ag blocks. i would assume watson is running the same block as those guys also since haisley and scheid had alot to do with building it.

 

Hazlerazor,
There is no difference in an AG 5.9L and pickup truck 5.9L block.
I remember seeing quite a few Scheid motor's with series 56 blocks....that same series of block came stock in a 2002 Cummins pickup.

I would like to give props to Ben Miller for building a Mod powerstroke motor.
Most people would have given up and bought a modded Cummins.

 

moddified stock blocks are what you will find if you take the time or are allowed to look. the list of stock moddifed parts in a built cummins is longer than the list of stock moddified parts in a built power stroke. end of story. not taking any thing from ben his truck kicks edited by admin. and to have the ***** to build it the way he has says it all.