Well, I passed around the video to my circle of friends.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=101646

My friend has a 1995 Powerstroke F-350 4x4, and he has layed down the challenge.

His truck is a long bed, single wheel, crew cab, auto (recently rebuilt but all stock parts), propane injection (although I don't believe it works...never has), and a Superchips 80HP programmer (I think he sold it though), and 4" exhaust. His tires are really skinny...I believe 235/85-16. They are street tires...no aggressive tread.

My rig you can see in my signature. My clutch slips under full throttle, but only in 5th and 6th gears.

What do I need to do to get the win? Should I replace the clutch first? Air down the tires? What gear to start in? What surface to do this on? Tow strap or chain?


What am I risking breaking by doing this?


I have never done a "pull-off" before, so any help would be appreciated. I know it may sound juvenile and stupid to do this, but I'm not one to back down from a challenge...especially one that I think I can win (and put one mouthy SOB in his place).

Thanks.

Nick

 

Juvenile and stupid to say the least.....

Now that I've said this, I may be pulling the same Ford. I'm 512hp / 934tq with EZ, TST, SPS66, SBC DD 3600CB, Parnelli Jones 35". I'm right at 8000# with the road armor, winch, etc. The truck is 4x4, crew cab, long bed, etc.

I'm thinking 4th gear in 4-low.

Suggestions? (especially on surface) I think in a field sounds a lot more rig friendly than pavement. Mud's out though, these rigs usually just sink.

Help us out!

David

 

I think you might pull the frame out of that thing. Sounds like a P.O.S! I bet you have at leaast 200hp an him and 400+tq!

 

You should straight crush the guy as long as the tires don't break loose. Your truck is much stronger. I don't have a 6 spd, so I don't know how to launch. Good luck and tell us how it turns out.

 

Its all about traction

and his truck is a 95? OMG.. lol, even with the 80 horse programer and stock components he aint gonna last too long, just wait for him to break traction adn pull him back... OR you can build a little boost since u seem to have the parts for it and just yank his butt to timbucktu... in either case i think ur gonna drag him around....

U can also air down your tires slightly, get the tallest upside down receiver hitch that you can find so that he pulls down on your rear tires and gives u some traction.... and add some weight in the bed to get an edge on him... id say pull him in third and low and give him a wake up call.. thats how i yank when i do, i have won three times using the wait till traction breaks mode and once i got yanked by a 3500 ram 04 at that.. Well at least it was to another dodge....

U risk clutch damage by doing this..

Rick

 

I have a southbend dual disc clutch. I'm assuming it will hold up better than the stock clutch?

 

make sure you have that fuel tank full, 34 gallons of traction weight that is invisible, and mostly on the rear wheels, about 275 lbs worth.

 

My 01 6speed towed a 02 PSD with Chip and nothing else. My truck was stock. I put it in 4lo and 1st gear. His was an auto and he would start pulling me until I let off the brake and gave her some dino blood. Jerk'd that POS- - -I mean PSD all over the place. Once it was all said and done I was getting out of my truck and he took off. Mine was in 1st gear and the parking brake was on. Destroyed my clutch and he footed the bill. $1800 for Clutch, new trans fluids and labor!!!!! You will win, hands down. Even if he uses propane, that will just give him to much power to the rear skinnies and he will spin!

 

So you're saying keep it slow, keep the traction, use the low gearing and torque. Is that the best approach, or is trying to yank him using 934lbs of torque?

One thing to note, my clutch is grabby since it's a dual disc, so it probably won't engage smoothely for me.

 

Are most of the comments here directed towards my truck or dsteinke's?

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

Oh yeah! take it from someone that knows...... ANYTHING holds up better than a stock clutch, except a centerforce.....

Rick

 

That's funny.... the 4x4 shop that installed my gauges with wires twisted together and taped, also recommended a ceterforce as the best clutch to hold 700 rwhp for my truck. I'm glad I never went back there after the gauge install. eek

 

power wont really matter first guy to lose traction loses. and i do agree slightly stupid hook them to a heavy load and head up a 7-8% grade. end of story.

 

yea its all traction..wait for him to start spinning the tires and start pullin...the one who breaks traction first loses...no matter if its a 500 hp truck spinning..as stock one will pull it if hes not...

 

Have you two actually done this before? I have only done it one time and here's some points to ponder:

My truck: 82 chev 1-ton single rw, 4-speed, 4x4, stock 454
Buddy's: 84ish ford 3/4ton 4-speed, 4x4, 6.9 or whatever non turbo diesel

To this day I have no idea how, but we both managed to release our clutches at the same exact rate and we were both in granny gear/4-hi. We both proceeded to smoke tires and not move. It took place on an extremely hard dirt road with a huge amount of grip or traction. I was smoking all four 33in tires and he was smoking three, if not all four, 33's also. I maybe pulled him six inches under that first even, well executed pull.

To contradict the "hold the brake and let the other guy spin first" theory:

We were both spinnin like stated above. Since it was basically a stalemate, I let off and stood on the brake, locking up all four. He stayed on the throttle and pulled me, with my tires locked, so **** fast. I then got back on the gas when he stopped, locking up his brakes, and I pulled him with his tires locked. I believe that both of our trucks were the same weight with obviously the same tires. Regardless of power, I think our weight and identical tires gives us the same "traction to weight" ratio. I know my 454 was way more righteous and kick *** than that 6.9 diesel, since I drove his truck after. My power was meaningless without either more weight or traction.

In conclusion, I would: 1) not worry about power at all 2) figure out how much he weighs and be heavier and 3) be the first one on the gas pedal. Keep in mind this is only one man's experience and opinion.